Friday, July 17, 2009 5:04 PM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Cc: douglaslloyd@verizon.net
Dear Douglas,
We have spoken in the past but it was a long time ago. You had mentioned before that you are related to the Phillips and that you had information regarding my family. I noticed that you have been in discussions recently about the Phillips on some of the Ancestery.com forums and that you are in contact with some of them.
I am a direct descendant of Antoine and Peter Phillips, so I have a couple of questions for you if you do not mind answering them for me.
1. Do you agree or disagree that Antoine, Peter, and his wife were Abenaki.
Answer: NO, I do not agree, at this time, that Antoine Sr. or his son Peter Phillips were Abenakis. All indications and oral histories (before 1974) indicate a Mohawk connection/ancestry/heritage.
NOTE:
Who is to say that the following information, is NOT the ancestry of the Vermont Phillips Family, and that an Abenaki OR Mohawk perhaps intermarried into the Phillips Family? Perhaps the Phillips Family Male Y-DNA is "ENGLISH" originally-speaking?
William Phillips was born 1588 in England. He was one of the first purchasers in Taunton, Massachusetts in 1637 or 1638. Taunton, (once called Cohannet), was bought from Massasoit, a friendly Indian Chief. William Phillips was a surveyor in 1653 and his name is listed as one of those "who had taken up freedom in 1648". He died c1654 and his will dated 16 April 1654 said that he was then 3 score and ten (70) at the least. William married Elizabeth Parker and their son James was born c1628.
James Phillips married Mary Richmond and had at least six children. He was one of the original purchasers of Taunton, MA, North Purchase in 1668. He was killed by Indians in 1676 during the King Philips War. His sons James, Seth and some of the other children were mentioned in the Letters of Administaration for his Will. In the Record Book, Town Records, Taunton, MA, I found a list of the children of James Phillips and one of those children was Seth Phillips who was born August 14, 1671. Seth Phillips married Abigail Surname Unknown. I was not able to locate their marriage but I did find a record for the birth of their son Elisha in the Record Book, Town Records, Little Compton, RI, Page 12.
Elisha Phillips married Innocent Butts in Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island on September 30, 1736. Their marriage can be found in the Record Book, Town Records, Little Compton, RI, Page 41. Their son John was born May 28, 1737 in New Milford, Connecticut.
John Phillips married Ann Burden on November 18, 1757. Their marriage was found in the Records of Marriages for the Congregational Church, Town of New Milford, Litchfield County, CT, Vol A 1716-1805, Page 29. The record of the baptisms for their sons Elisha and Ziba can be found in the Church Records, Society of Friends, Oblong Monthly Meetings 1745-1783, Page 191.
When the American Revolution commenced, John Phillips and his family were living near Kingsborough, NY. In the National Archives of Canada, Microfilm B2188 #120 the Memorial of John Phillips states that he is formerly of Kingsborough in Charlotte County in Province of New York and now residing near St. John's in the Province of Canada. He joined under General Burgoyne in June 1777. On 02 Oct 1777 his farm was seized by rebels (Fenians?) and he (John Phillips) came to Canada and joined Major Rogers as a soldier. He stated that he has a wife and 11 children and four of his sons also served as soldiers in the Royal Army. (They would be Elisha, Ziba, Seth and Almon). After the troops disbanded at St. John's, Quebec, John Phillips and his family settled in the Missisquoi Bay area against Governor Haldimand's wishes. This area was intended to be settled by French Canadians. Although many Loyalists did settle there, it is predominantly French today. Seth Phillips stayed in the Missisquoi area at Caldwell Manor.
ABOVE SOURCE: http://www3.sympatico.ca/pc.lozo/index-P.htm
2. Where does your blood line intersect with the Phillips? My Bloodline DOES NOT, that I know of, at this time, intersect with the Phillips Family, though Jeptha Woodward Sr. could have married 1st to a Phillips woman, POSSIBLY, but this conjecture is not proven.
3. I have all of the Eugenics records regarding my family. If you have documents on the Phillips, how can I get a copy and how much would you charge me to get the documents? How far past Antoine do you have? I am still working genealogically on the answer to Antoine Phillip's parentage and who his wife actually was, at this time.
I am not looking for a fight, a pissing contest, or a public dragging through the mud. I am asking you as one honest (?) human being to another who likes facts. I have no quarrel with you unless I am attacked personally. I will respect you, if you respect me. I only put this out there so that you understand that I have no agenda other than to get information about my Grandfathers.
I ask that your respect our conversation and keep it confidential between us. I will do the same. (I NEVER did agree to keep any communications between Donald Stevens Jr. and myself "confidential" whatsoever. Why would he want these communications to be "confidential" in the first place? What is the big secret about keeping genealogical information sharing, confidential, does Donald Warren Stevens have something to "hide"? I refuse to operate in such a manner. It is not my "style".)
Sincerely,
Don Stevens
Re: Phillips
From: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
To: donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net
Donald Stevens,
How are you a descendant of Old Pete Phillips, respectfully asked Donald Stevens? I would like the birth dates, marriage dates, and death dates from you ancestry from Peter Phillips ...... down to yourself. Then I can relate further information to you kindly and respectfully said. By mail and or by email as time allows.
I do not mind providing what information I am allowed to, to you respectfully said, but again I am most curious as to why you have not directly spoken with and received the information more directly from the Phillip's family descendants themselves. Hope all is well with you kindly Mr. Stevens.
This email took me by surprise as I did not expect that you would inquire of me for this particular Phillips family information. I look forward to hearing from you again Mr. Stevens if you so choose to communicate further with me.
Kindly,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Saturday, July 18, 2009 7:50 PM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: “Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Douglas,
Thank you for answering my email. I can understand that you would be surprised by my email. I also know that you are in conflict with many people in Vermont. However, this has no bearing on myself. That is between you and them. I am at a time in my life where all of the fighting and political crap means nothing to me. I have always worked on my own terms to help the abenaki people. I have pissed off many people both on the commission and with the people of NH and Vermont. This is because I always speak my own mind and am nobodies puppet. I always try to respect everyone who shows me respect and I am always willing to work with anyone who wants too. I will always support those who will advance the Abenaki people no matter what their personal agenda is as long as it moves our people forward. You have never done anything to me so why shouldn't I communicate with you?
As far as why I have not talked to the Phillips family. I have made efforts in the past to go through Tom Phillips to talk to his dad Albert Phillips but have never been able to get together. My Grandmother never wanted to talk about our heritage or anyone. So how does Mr. Stevens Jr. KNOW who he was, or his alleged heritage if his Grandmother NEVER wanted to talk about her "heritage" to her son? In my case, she and our family were actively engaged in the Eugenics Survey and they used different names to try to avoid those people. Or was it just that these people simply uneducated? This is not an excuse but just plan fact of the matter. She wanted us to blend in. When she passed away when I was a kid, all connections to my Phillips relatives faded away with her along with any information she could give me. When I really started to get involved with my Genealogy, my mother's memory and age were to old to recall specifics.
So, 3/4rd's of the way through Mr. Donald Stevens life, he "discovered" his alleged and re-invented "Abenaki" supposed heritage. Thats why he sought the Eugenics Survey Documents from Judy Dow and Nancy Gallagher when he sat at the VCNAA table! Including what I have on the Phillips and Allied Families, he wanted.
I will provide you with my Pedigree as soon as I can get to my work computer. However, for now I will give you how I am connected:
Antoine Phillips - Peter Phillips - Delia (Lena, Rose) Phillips - Delia (Bissette) Burbo (Birth records show Lilian and Marriage shows Pauline) - Margaretia (Burbo) Stevens (my mother) - Donald Stevens Jr. (me)
I have Birth, marriage, and Death records on some of my relatives and am in the process of obtaining the rest of the information. I felt that if you have already done this work on my family, I do not need to chase it down. I am being completely honest with you on this.
I will talk more later when I have the time,
Be Well, Don Stevens
Re: FYI ONLY. Not that it matters if you share this though, if you feel the need eh.
Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:12 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Douglas,
I am not out to harm you and "the information you sent me will not be shared. I am a man of my word". I have the main Eugenics records on the Phillips family but not all of the Eugenics supporting documentation. I have been told by the Phillips, Fred Wiseman, John Moody, Judy Dow and others that I am part of a core Abenaki Family. I will call you when I get a chance.
I look at recognition as a good thing for the State of Vermont and the Abenaki people. I do not care how many tribes are recognized or who as long as it happens. Even if it helps benefit our artists who are legite, it opens up doors that they did not have before. This is what I care about. I know we differ on this point but the Crafters and traditions are what is important to me and not who is in charge. It is ok for us to disagree as you said. However, this does not take away from us working together or to dislike the other. The abenaki story is very complicated and who knows exactly how it all played out. But like you, I want as many documents of my own family that I can get.
I would love to get in contact with Tom Phillips again at some point. If you see him or talk to him, please let him know. People are skeptical when you say, Here I am, please talk to me....
I will be in touch and again thank you.
Don Stevens
Phillips Pedegree
Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:36 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
1 File (584KB)
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Douglas,
This is what I have for a pedigree chart of my family from the Eugenics records and from other sources. I have a typo for my Grandmother Delia Bissette Burbo, she was married on Nov 29th.
I have the following Documents:
Joesph Burbo Death Certificate
Delia (Lena) Phillips Death Certificate and Marriage Certificate as Rosa
I have my Grandmothers Birth Record as Lillian (Delia Bissette Burbo) and also her Marriage Certificate as Pauline.
I am working on the rest. I would love Peter Phillips Death Certificate if you do not mind sharing.
I am still working on the rest of the documents.
Be Well,
Don Stevens
Donald Stevens,
Like I said before, I will share with you everything that I can; I have a bit more than just that death records. Do you mind the scanned document images on a CD and sent to you via mail? I have a decent scanner and I can scan at 300 d.p.i. and up.Kindly,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
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Re: Phillips Pedegree
Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:50 PM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Douglas,
That would be great. My address is 156 Bacon Drive Shelburne VT 05482. I also was told that "Blackhorse" Phillips was the Chief of Missisquoi at one time. Do you know if this is fact or rumor?
Again, thank you for your help.
Donald Stevens
Re: Phillips Pedegree
Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:55 PMFrom: donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Yup,
I think we are on the same journey. You are just farther ahead on the Genealogy path. If you find any errors in the chart or additions, please let me know. Also, I was told by Darren Bonaparte this weekend that a lot of Abenaki Families fled to Kahnawake because of Rogers Rangers. He also told me that some of their chiefs were Abenaki warriors. There are still Abenaki families living with the Mohawk land today in there own groups.
Be Well,
Don
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touching base
Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:26 PM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Good Afternoon Douglas,
Just touching base with you to see if you have had a chance to send out the information on CD as of yet? I am just excited to see all the information you have for me....Hope all is well with you....
Be Well,
Don Stevens
Kwaii mina (hello again in Abenaki) Donald Stevens,
Sadly the answer is no, I haven't touched the information (yet) but I pulled it out and began getting some of the records ready to take down to Littleton as some point soon. I got to wait until I get paid on the 3rd and then start moving around getting stuff done. Everything happens around the third of the month. The scanner will work for now to get everything onto CD but I am so busy working on required genealogical research that I have been hired to do for other families here in this State and elsewhere. It's SORT OF keeps me out of harms way but then again you know me, and how trouble seems to find me, even if I don't invite it into my life. They are now saying I am in league with Paul Pouliot. that I am financially being backed up to do this work by him, and or the State of Vermont, Odanak, or the FBI. I have to really keep myself from laughing so hard I piss myself at this stupidity and so on coming out by whomever. I have recently been working on some other stuff that needed tending to very quickly but rest assured I have not nor will I forget to do this stuff for you Don. Just alot going on right now. I also want to get that death record up in Maine for you as well. I have never seen it either myself. I am in possession of the scanned Yaratz Phillips and allied families, which is a GEM of a work and I am very much busy transcribing that into my own FTM dates names etc etc and using Ancestry.com and other databases online to fill in the spaces. Field researching to get info and documentations too. Its a work in progress.
Did you know that Darrel Larocque got a settlement of 10 Million dollars and if he was Chief Diplomatic Ambassador to Homer, then WHY wasn't that man helping with the Recognition process with at least some of that funds before he died in 2000? It is all very puzzling confusing and frustrating to me of course........but it really is here nor there.
Kindly,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Re: touching base
Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:44 PMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Hello Douglas,
Thanks for getting back to me so soon, I appreciate it. I am also on a budget so I know what you mean. I have no problem paying for copies of my family's documents as long as I have an idea of how much it is. If they are on CD, I can also print them out myself if need be... I know that you will not forget about me and I thank you for your honesty. I do not know about you but I get excited (like a kid in a candy store) when I see new items involving my family. It is like putting together a puzzle and with every new document, you just want to stay with it until the puzzle is done, this is why I am so anxious. I also think that it is a privilege to be the keeper of ones heritage. I try to respect the information shared with me because it affects peoples lives if used for wrong purposes.
As for opinions about who you are working for: I think that allegations like the FBI and such are pretty far fetched.... I think that when people feel threatened, they lash out no matter how outlandish it may seem (you know the old saying, you are with me or against me) which is unfortunate. For instance, if you say or do something that is against one of the Vermont tribes, in their eyes, you must be working for someone who is trying to bring them down. This has always been the conspiracy mentality. Myself, I have been both accepted and shit on, depending on the day or even the hour of the day. This is reality and because I know it, I do what is right and not what is popular. However, I have learned to be a little more tactful and still get my point across. I used to be very abrasive and in your face kind of guy but I found that did not work very well for me over the long term.
As for Darrel Larocque, I have never met him or know him at all. I am unsure why he would have gotten a settlement and not really none of my business. I look at it this way, people either try to help with recognition or stay out of the game. Fighting only brings the Abenaki people down and helps nobody. Healthy debates are ok but should be limited to our own people. When legislators see us fight, they do not know what to do and tend to do nothing. Lots of people like to sit on the sidelines and "wait and see" attitude or want other people to do the hard work. The people who do the hard work will be respected in the end.
Take Vermont recognition for instance, Lots of people have opinions and agendas. Some good and some bad but they at least have an opinion. I personally try to rise above all of the shit to smell the flowers. This is why my position has always been this: What is the purpose of State
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recognition really? Is it to help the tribes? Help the Crafters...etc... The BIA has already turned down Federal Recognition for the Vermont Tribes. So that is a mute point. The State has the right to give recognition with as many rights or NOT as they want to because they write the laws. The State of Vermont has already stated in the Statue that even if recognized, the Abenaki people will get NO special rights that other Vermonters do not have EXCEPT to label and sell their crafts as Native American. How does this benefit the Chiefs themselves? it doesn't and that is why they have not pushed hard for recognition. B.S. The recognition argument has been used as a political tool if you think about it. Ok with that said, the only people who will benefit are individuals trying to make a living selling arts and crafts, not the tribal governments. B.S. Do you think the tribes would support recognition if every tribal organization is listed for recognition including the Clan of the Hawk? Even if it meant that their own crafters would benefit, do you really think they would fight to get the bill shot down? Yes, because it is about POWER and CONTROL. They would fight it big time. So my opinion is recognize every tribe you can regardless of genealogy. You know why? It creates healthy competition to sell your goods in the market and the individuals make the profits and not the native organization. Also if everyone possible is recognized, the tribes will no longer focus on the recognition issue but on each other and issues affecting the tribes. The Tribes are united because of the recognition issue, do you think if they got recognition they would continue to work together? I think you need to be recognized as a native entity and show connection to historical places that were native. However, genealogy should be used as an individual aspect to prove to yourself where you fit in. I know you may disagree with me and that is ok, that is why God gave us all our own ideas and will. The great thing is that people can disagree but still respect each other. My overall hope is that Abenaki people can sell their crafts so that their life may be a little easier. Even if a few frauds get through, that is the price to pay to help our people move forward in my opinion.
Sorry to be long winded but you know me...talk, talk, talk.....*smile*...Be Well,
Don
Just touching base with yoiu
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:49 PMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz" douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Hey Douglas,
I am just dropping you a line to see how things are going? I stopped by my moms house yesterday and told her that you were helping in providing some documentation on our family. She is also anxious to see what you have and also thanks you in advance.
Be Well,
Don Stevens
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Kwaii mina Donald Stevens,
I finally found the batch of Phillips info I wanted to find, that I knew I got. Esspecially about Ol Pete Phillips. Now it isn't certified but hope that won't be an issue for you or any of the Phillips folks. It will take me a bit of time to get this too you because it is a bit of paperwork to scan. If you want photocopies then we'll do differently and you can pay for the copies and postage. I go to Staples down in Littleton NH cause my small town charges way too much for copies at the local library. Photocopies probably would be faster, but scanning will give you the original look of the documents eh. I still have to work on the info in this book and transfer the vital record info from that into my FTM Program. Its a bit of work and other irons in the fire tend to keep my "distracted". Been working on a Blais lineage up in Quebec, Canada. And I am trying to get out to my Uncle Blaine's memorial out in WA state. Sad he passed away in some aspects but "here today, gone tomorrow" as they'd say.
Kindly,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Re: Just touching base with you
Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:14 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Kwai Douglas,
That is great that you found the info. It does not matter to me that the documents are not certified. As long as I have the documents, it will give me something to do... Every piece of information is helpful in my quest and I will gladly research any and all possible leads that is on the documents to try to verify the information. Once I have verified it, I can give the information to the other relatives as well. The more of our relatives who know our heritage the better. Once people look at things, sometimes it jogs their memory. If later on down the road I need to get originals, I will know where to find them..... The only thing that I ask you to scan is the pictures of my relatives and email them to me. Those do not photo copy very well.
If you think I can get the documents faster by photo copy then lets do that. I can mail you the money (if you tell me how much and give me your address) to cover the expense or I can call Staples and give them my Credit Card Number for when you arrive. If you can give me a timeframe on when you can get to it, that would be appreciated also.
I am sorry to hear about your Uncle Blaine. I will say a prayer for him and offer some tobacco for his safe journey. Life is short so you have to make the best of it. What is stopping you from going out to WA?
Be Well,
Don
If you want to send $40.00 that ought cover everything that I have here. The photographs I already have in this computer at 300 to 600 d.p.i. you can get excellent photos from them, cause my scanner is top of the line. I will just put them to CD. The documents I can do down south manually. They are in self-protective plastic selvages’. DO you have ALL of the Eugenics material on the Phillips folks or just your particular lineage?
Oh here is my address:Douglas Buchholz
P.O. Box 83
Lancaster, NH 03584
I am going after that Death Record up in Maine on Monday morning. I want that one for my own records as well. Well off to fix some Mohawk for supper. (Phillips are indicated to be MOHAWK DESCENDANTS documentarily, NOT "Abenaki") Just kidding, its pork chops and veggies with some sauce. hee hee.
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
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Re: Just touching base with you
Friday, July 31, 2009 9:13 AM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Douglas,
It sounds like your Grandfather was an honorable man. There are lots of secrets like the one you told in everyone's family. I think sometimes our families resist digging up the past for this same reason. Sometimes stuff like this changes the "peacefull" order of things... I think that is why we have to be truthful in our searches and also be careful what we do with the information we find out...
As for the Eugenic's Records. I have the core Eugenics Records listed as "Phillips General History" it looks to be about 300 pages or so starting with Antoine. It lists the names, what they found out, and who they were related too. I do not have any supporting documents or anything from the Eugenics outside of this General History. I have never actually seen the Eugenics records as a whole in the records center so I am unsure if I have everything or not. I need to take some vacation time at some point and go to Middlesex. I was given the Eugenics information from Judy Dow when I was on the commission because she had done research with Nancy
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Gallagher so they could write their book "breeding better Vermonters" and to give paid lectures. She gave it to me so I could get a head start on my research.
I will drop $100 bucks in the mail to cover your expenses to make sure you have enough or in case you find something else. Whatever is left, use for Gas money and such...I appreciate your help and also the conversations we have been having.... By the way, I had pork chops the other night also. I cooked them on top of the stove with garlic, onions, and some soy sauce... pretty good actually.Be Well and good luck in Maine,
Don Stevens
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From: donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net
Subject: Trip
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:38 AM
Douglas,
I hope your trip to Maine went well. Please let me know if you receive the Check that I sent you.
Be Well,
Don
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Re: Trip
Tuesday, August 4, 2009 5:48 PM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Thanks again Douglas. Please make sure to do a quick hand diagram on where the Woodward’s and others link into the Antoine Phillips line when you have the time... Well off to buy hamburg for supper.... Try to enjoy the sunshine if you can.
Be Well,
Don
Re: touching base
Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:34 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Wow, you've been a busy bee.... You have not emailed me the PDF of the Phillips folks as of yet. I emailed you a PDF of my family tree based on Eugenics records information when I first contacted you but that is all. I only had my direct line in the document I sent you and not all of the branches which would include Christie Phillips. Not sure where she fits in. I am also not sure where Tom Phillips intersects with mine. I will have to lay it all out on paper so that I can visualize who intersects where and to whom. I am a visual person and need to see it to grasp the big picture....
I hope that you can convince Winifred Yaratz to share her information with us as well. Winifred is welcome to mine if she would like it, if she will do the same in return. Our family History is the only thing that our ancestors have left us to piece things together. They are with us in spirit but they can only guide us to where to look for our information. I know that my ancestors brought me to you and will eventually bring me to Tom Phillips as well (when the time is right) to share information he has with me as well. We need to share our Family information with our relatives so that our ancestors are not forgotten. I feel compelled to make sure that our Family knows our own History.
I am not sure if you encounter this at all with your family but what really pisses me off is that one of my Aunts is a selfish bitch. Boy, no wonder she gave Donald Stevens the "cold shoulder" She made some contacts with some Phillips descendants at the Missisquoi pow-wow this year who has been sending her pictures and stuff of my Great Grand parents and others and she refuses to share with the family. I am not sure what her problem is but I intend to find out if possible. I only wanted to get the pictures because she put together some data before but the dates and facts were all wrong... Hee Hee... When I brought it to her attention, she got all embarassed and pissed off. Most of the mistakes were obvious; your great grand parents cannot be 5 years old when they had their first child. Shit like that really bugs me.... My goal is to also get pictures of at least my immediate blood line up to Antoine. I have my Grand Parents and you said you have a picture of Rosa so it is a start. I wonder if Peter Phillips has a mug shot with the State Agencies or Peacham.... He had been incarcerated a few times and I think he also went to the Vermont State Hospital at least once. Not sure if mug shots were ever taken or not....
Be Well,
Don
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Re: Just a note more this am
Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:03 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Ok, sounds like a plan.... At least Oscar Harvey Switzer can be with Christie May nee: Phillips first hand now so seeing the Obituary doesn't matter so much anymore. As you said, life is too short. I am glad you are sending me the documents as you get them so I can start my work..... If we waited until things were complete, nothing would ever be shared because everyday you find something new... Thank you in advance for getting me any pictures you can find of my family (especially my direct line), it is appreciated. It is nice to put a face to a name...
As for the Police and institutional records, it is just another piece of the puzzle that may contain information not known to us... If you look at the Eugenics summary sheet on the Phillips, you will notice that most of them were either in trouble with the law or put in the State Hospital at some point in their life... Maybe we can get a hold of records (since they have passed) of converstations, they may have had with social workers or other people...
Be Well,
Don
got your email
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Don, I shipped the package this late morning to your address there in Shelburne and I enclosed two CD's of photographs, PDF's and WORD documents as well as a huge stack of photocopies from my hard source material.
Now, I did put the photographs of Yaratz book on the oranged sleeved jacketed CD for you, not that I had "permission" to do it, or share them, but I threw up my hands on this one circumstance, rolled me eyes into the back of me head and said an irish prayer that I don't piss off any of the Phillips/Yaratz folks for having shared these images with you Don. For gosh sakes your a descendant of Ol Pete Phillips and its not like your going to take the photographic images out, staple em to the telephone pole and use them for target practice (I don't think anyway? hee hee). I also enclosed a bit about my Woodward connection to Peter Phillips son (by Eliza Way) Isaac Phillips having lived with Mary Powers (nee: Woodward) over there in East Peacham, Vermont. I am not a Phillips descendant of your Phillips folks that I know of at this time Don. I am a Phillips descendant from Kentucky, Missouri, and Indiana though. But I don't think the lineages connect to the Vermont Phillips folks. A Y-DNA test result would prove one way or the other if that were the situation. Either way, I happened to find Isaac Phillips son of Ol Peter Phillips and Eliza Way coming into the household of Mary Ann "May" Woodward - Powers in ca. December 1918 and of which in August 1926 Harriett Abbott says that Isaac was living with Mary Woodward - Powers and or her son Wallace Powers there in East Peacham, Vermont. Mary Woodward-Powers was a relative two or three times over genealogically to MY direct ancestors. She wasn't just related to the Woodward's that I am connected to, but also the Taylor's, Robinson's, Sawyer's etc. The families inter-related eh. hee hee.
So anyway when you get this package do email me and by gosh, by all means ask me questions if you find you’re confused about anything about what I have mailed in that package ok?!!!!
Kindly,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:56 AM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net" To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Cc: douglaslloyd@myfairpoint.net
Hey Douglas,
Thanks for the information that you sent. I was able to briefly review some of the information this weekend. It seems that most of the information is on individuals that are off shoots of my direct line. This will be good information to have for the future and for contacts of living relatives that I can talk to. I was very excited when I saw the picture of Old Antoine... That made my whole day! I was a little confused though, it said that he was a chief and that he was born near Lake Memphemagog (please excuse the spelling). I thought he was born in Canada? Maybe that was Peter... Was he chief of his family band or something else? Whomever had the picture of Old Antoine, do they have pictures of Peter and others in my direct line?
Who is Antoine senior's father? etc... I saw a Benjamin in the paperwork but not sure if that was Antoine's father or not. Richard "Blackhorse" Phillips said that he was decendant from King Phillip or Philip Phillips... Do we have that connection or was that merely a statement? So many questions....
I think that I want to concentrate on my direct blood line first Peter, Antoine, his father etc so I can focus without jumping all over the place….and then branch out to the others after....Maybe Tom or Blackhorse has information on Antoine's father and mother and upward..... Anything else you find would be appreciated....
Will talk soon, be well,
Don
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:57 AM
From: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net" To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Cc: douglaslloyd@myfairpoint.net
Douglas,
Thanks and don't worry, there will be questions....many questions...*smile*... Thank you also for sending me the photo's of the Phillips, you can rest assured that they are safe with me so no one will get pissed off at you...
On another note, I was poking around on my Grandfathers side of the family and found something else that was interesting. My Grandfather is Joseph Frank Burbo (he changed the spelling) whose Father was Frank Joseph Bourbeau who's mother was Louisa Riel born in 12 Jan 1836 in Canada. Their is a possibility that they are either Wabanaki or Chippawa... I saw some comments on Ancestory.com that she is indian from a google search. I do not have a subscription with Ancestory.com so I do not know for sure. I did find a lot of Material on Louis Riel who is definately indian but not sure if they are related. I know that the Bourbeau's are French but it would be neet if there is another native connection with Louisa Riel.
Have a great weekend,
Don
Subject: Just saying HI
Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:37 AMFrom: "donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net" donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
Hey Douglas,
Just dropping you a line to say hi and hope all is well. I spent the entire day with Blackhorse the a couple of weekends ago which was great. We did some drumming and other things... I have been very busy at work and have not had a chance as of yet to have time to myself.
Well talk to you later and stay warm... Fall is coming....
Don Stevens
Ok, so go back and review this page of "Decolonizing the Abenaki...."
LINK: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hqC5V9v2WXg/TIPq7HUQqlI/AAAAAAAAGbI/1bWSkZwBQOM/s1600/36..jpg
Where does one suppose that "important" particular digital copy of a tin-type photograph (that someone "cropped") come from? Who else would have a mind to digitally duplicate such a page out of Yaratz' compilation or even take the time to do so?
Well, let's see here, I obtained Winifred Yaratz's compiled "Brief History of the Abenaki Phillips--Blake Families And Genealogy" Book, in late-November 2008, from Thomas "Tom" Phillips (he graciously let me borrow it to review and with the understanding that I would not share the information with ANYONE, not even other Phillips descendants) and I scanned/ digitized each page of the book, for my own personal awareness (Tom Phillips was aware at the time of this endeavor), at the time, and I returned the book back to Tom Phillips. I subsquently asked Winifred Yaratz (by telephone call) if I could share this with other Phillips descendants, but never did get a "yes, I can" or "no, I couldn't" answer from her. So, when Donald Warren Stevens Jr. emailed me, inquirying what I had on the Phillips Family....I sat down and thought well, "what harm could it do, if I shared this Yaratz compilation with a proven Phillips descendant relative" (even though I knew the book's content was "full of innuedo's and conjecture" in various places inside the book itself). It most certainly advocates a certain pro-St. Francis-Sokoki historical bent" to it, and it is a very biased account to my thinking in reviewing it (much like Frederick M. Wiseman's book "Voice of the Dawn").
In retrospective-thinking, I have come to the conclusion that, in all likelihood, it was Donald Stevens Jr. who MUST have given the digital image of Antoine Phillips JR (and for whom Yaratz, in her book mistakenly "misidentified" as Antoine Phillips Sr. and calling him a "Chief") (or the entire CD) to Frederick Matthew Wiseman PhD who created and curates the "Museum" called "Wôbanakik Heritage Center" and then the "distorition" (about who actually is in the photographic tin-type) Mr. Wiseman PhD (with the help of Donald W. Stevents Jr.) then perpetuated stupidly into his work entitled "Decolonizing the Abenaki: A Methodology of Detecting Vermont Tribal Identity"!
Fw: suggestion
Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:30 AMFrom: "Floyd Family"
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"
----- Original Message -----
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: dfloyd@nycap.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion
Eric Scott Floyd;
Thanks. I see they are still very busy. I will keep this in confidence you can be sure. Hope all is well with you and your family.
Regards
Raymond Lussier
-----Original Message-----
From: Floyd Family
To: drraymondl@aol.com (Dr. Raymond “Palm Reading” Lussier)
Sent: Sat, 2 May 2009 8:27 pm
Subject: Fw: suggestion
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Millette
To: Floyd Family
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: Fw: suggestion
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From: Nancy Millette
To: Donald Stevens Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 AM
Subject: suggestion
Donald Stevens
As your friend I am addressing you not as a chief....
I think you are addressing the Vermont Indigenous Alliance all wrong. You are asking us to support you and the VCNAA commission and pleading with us to all to get along. The alliance is very strong and very united. As a person who is an 'outsider" and I say that as not being a chief with a seat on the Alliance you should maybe think about Indian protocol. Ask the Alliance for an opportunity for you to come and address the Alliance and ASK us for your help. I will tell you right now (as you brought up the Mohawks I will use that as an example) If a citizen or even a USA political leader wanted to talk to or have support from the Chiefs of Iroquois Confederacy they would ask in a traditional way to have a meeting. I know for a fact that if a meeting was asked for at Onondaga with the Confederacy a runner and wampum string would be sent to Akwesasne (the eastern door) and a messenger from there would be sent to the Onondage longhouse.
We too have protocal. You might do well to ask Fred on some guidance of protocol addressing the Abenaki Alliance.....
just a suggestion...
Nancy Millette – Doucett
From: Nancy Millette
To: donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: I need to know I can trust you
Hi Don
I am quite concerned about a situation that is more against the state of vt then me! I would like to be able to give you some information and documents to back up what I say. I think you as commissioner should know about this and also someone in the vermont government but I am not sure who I should get this information too that will understand my concerns are more for the state then for my band or recognition! Can you please advise me off the record and not turn this over to your entire commission until you and I and others involved with documentation can make a solid plan of action that would work?
It is about Howard Knight and Brian Chenevert's schemes. As you know the people here including my family have resigned in helping them in anyway and have blocked them out of our group once the truth was known. What they are doing is using a few unsuspecting people and families here to give them legitamacy into the state for recognition while making this only a stepping stone.
(now that is what I call a lying hypocrite!)
First
Brian Chenevert: Lives in Webster MA. He had an ancestor from the 1600 or 1700's in Guillhall and his other abenaki roots are from Sherbrook back as far as that!
Howard Knight has NEVER been able to prove any abenaki heritiage ever and all of us in the alliance have known him (and this) since the 1980's when he first showed up. IF he had abenaki hertiage he would be connected to a land base somewhere in VT and would not have to steal others history. He is now organizing a group in MA called ICCU...I can't remember the details of this name but something about cowasuck clans unitied. All the groups are from MA except him and a buddy who hasn't quite caught on yet from Post Mills.
Shelley Boudreau- from Ware MA. Her family claim they are abenaki but no one has every seen the documentation and it was never turned over to Brian's genealogists. If it is true their ties are canadian not vermont according to what they have said. they claim they are cousins to Brian Chenevert
Tribal Judge Dr Ray Lussier: Has DNA and links to Huron...not abenaki ...Ilves in Tynsboro ma. (He lives in Tynsboro, Massachusetts) No blood and bone connection to Newbury Vt or Haverhill NH
Suzette LeClair Lives in Canada. Her aboriginal ties are to Yamachiche. that group is trying to get recognition in canada. why she is involved with these guys is beyond me!
Norman Chenevert- Lives in Webster MA. He is Brian's father.
Paul Bunnell -Lives in Milford NH on Ma Border. His back ground is Metis Novia Scotia.
Nathan Pero- He is from Post Mills VT. Howard Knight just dug up the Pero family and made them feel like royality because of Joe Pero's history. They have no idea what this group is doing. THey are honoring a dead family member and are being used for recognition in VT. He is the one who got them a post office box in Post Mills Vt.
Post Mills- I have heard the stories over the years about Joe Pero. I do not personally know the family but have heard the name. Howard Knight lies so much it is hard to know what is true and not in the Pero stories the he spins. I do not know of the Abenaki History of Thetford, Post Mills. BUT what I do know is it is not Haverhill NH nor Newbury VT.
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I can show you all my ties to Haverhill and Newbury in black and white going back to late 1700's right through to present. Both Native and Non Native as well as over 90% of my band's citizens are the same. I am connected to the land base on both the native and non native sides of my family. I was born and raised there and can't wait to go home. My parents aunts counsins etc all still live there! Why I am so upset goes beyong Abenaki recognition. it is the principal that those people are using someone elses history and heritage as their own and raping us and the state because they entend to process application and fight for VT recognition. Isn't this EXACTLY what these 4 groups (of which includes Nancy's group) calling itself the "Vermont Indeginous Alliance" are doing against Odanak, Quebec Abenakis etc ~and~ other legitimate Native People's in N'dakinna? I know then Brian wants to fight for NH recognition. He wants land claims in both states and also process for federal recognition.
I have a whole lot of documentation to prove all this and so do others who have been used by Brian and Howard Knight Jr. for the last few years with this grand plan of theirs. It is time to protect the state now! Both NH and VT!! reguardless of Abenaki anything except that is what they think they can get status of to go the next step.
Look at
http://www.cowasuckabenaki.com/
that is brian's website
http://www.koasekabenaki.org/
is mine.
can you see in black and white what they are doing? they don't even know the geographics of this area! They have a painting of Lukes region over the history of Newbury! they think Post Mills is close enough to Haverhill and Newbury to be the same area and history! WRONG!
This ICCU thing is all in MA groups except for Howard Knight and Nathan Pero.
I need to know who to trust so this gets to the right people who will help protect my home towns. Newbury and haverhill. I don't care about recognition on this issue. I just don't like the deception being used (Tell that hypocritical LIE to Flora Eunice nee: Ingerson-Hunt and to Flora's mother Almira nee: Rines-Ingerson-Pollock....I am sure they will "believe that B.S".....NOT!) toward my family and community!
thank you nancy
From: Nancy Millette
To: Floyd Family (Eric Scott Floyd of Pittsfield, Massachusetts)Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: Fw: just so you know enough is enough
Don is the commission of native affrairs in vt. I have also put in identity theft by those fools to the ag's office, and I have contacted the cafepress.com to let them know that logo is copyrighted and belongs to me! their store will be shut down soon. I sent brians father a letter today too..he is a cop he should know the laws. n (Nancy Millette-Doucet)
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----- Original Message -----
From: donald_stevens@myfairpoint.net
To: Nancy Millette
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: just so you know enough is enough
Ok, I will keep on file...
Don
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Quoting Nancy Millette :
Don just so you know...I am pressing charges against brian chenevert and his group for using our history, our family names and my copyrighted art work to try to trick the state into giving his group recognition and for selling products with my copyrighted artwork. Just so you know I have had enough bull from people raping and exloding my family and all the other families in the koas region and vermont! Nancy
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CommentsHatred and Lateral Violence
Submitted by Donald Stevens (not verified) on January 19, 2010 - 10:17am.
I wanted to comment on Mr. Buckhholz's (Buchholz) statements he has made. It is a shame that there is still such hatred toward minorities and Native American people today. No other race of people are asked to see their "papers" but Native people are still put under that expectation. Would you walk up to an African American and ask to see the boarding pass of his ancestors from the Slave Ships? They wouldn't have had any to begin with, so what is the point of this stupid ignorant comparative question? I think not, because it is not proper. Mr. Buckhholz knows first hand that my ancestors and relatives (that he respects) have Native Ancestry. (but they are not identified or are identifying "as Abenakis" prior to 1974) He also knows that my direct descendants were also documented quite heavily in the Eugenics Survey. (As possible and very likely being of MOHAWK descent, not Abenaki) He would argue that we are Native American from anywhere but Vermont. However, Our family know who we are and we do not need to be told who we are. (Then tell us all, why reason you had in mid-2009, to BEG me for genealogical documentation on YOUR Phillips Ancestors, when your OWN Phillips Family Relatives wouldn't share that information with you Mr. Donald Warren Stevens, Jr.?) We are Abenaki people (that's a dubious questionable assertion) and we practice our heritage out in the open. By doing so, we become targets of such hatred. We need to stop this kind of distain (actually that is spelled disdain) toward others. Douglas is correct when he said that as Chairman we worked with the Tribes that exist within Vermont borders. (Oh, what "tribes" that exist within Vermont? Mr. Stevens Jr. confuses Incorporations with "Tribes" and "Bands") That was what we were charged to do when appointed by the Governor. I have no hatred for Mr. Buckhholz personally and would never bring myself to create personal attacks on anyone. (No, Mr. Stevens, Jr. would rather communicate by email and by other means under-the-awareness of those he speaks against, and helps those he quietly advocates for, like for example, Mrs. April Ann nee: St. Francis-Rushlow-Merrill, his "Chief") It is ok to have different opinions on subjects such as Abenaki Recognition but it is another matter to make it personal. There are many people who agree that we are Abenaki and he does not (There are A LOT more people than just myself, that conclude they are NOT "Abenaki", including the Office of Federal Acknowledgment of the Bureau of Indian Affairs!) . He is entitled to his opinion and other scholars are entitled to theirs. No matter who has what opinion on who we are or are not, we will continue to practice our heritage and will continue to develop a relationship with our neighbors.
My Repsonse to Donald Stevens
Submitted by Douglas Lloyd Buchholz (not verified) on January 26, 2010 - 2:39am.
I find it interesting that this man concludes my words are "hatred". So dissent = hatred? ALL Legitimate Native Communities across this USA demand to see "papers" genealogically BEFORE granting citizenship or "status" to people coming into their Native Communities. It is VERY PROPER that GENEALOGICAL EVIDENCE AND PAPERS are presented to the Legislature and to the State of Vermont to verify clearly and convincingly that the Vermont Legislature is dealing with and recognizing Abenaki descendants, and not some charlatan group of persons who merely CLAIM they are Abenaki. Donald Stevens declares the Phillips Family knows who they are. Really? Ok, so where is the ancestry of Antoine Phillips and Catherine Cadaive. Mohawk? or Abenaki? or not? Disdain? I am merely showing the dynamic of whats been going on in Vermont, N.H. and MA. These groups of alleged and re-invented Abenakis want and
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demand and manipulate for State Recognition without showing or providing actual evidence that they are Abenakis. No, Donald Stevens has it wrong. There are NO "TRIBES" in Vermont or New Hampshire. To be a "Tribe" you have to have historical connection, cohesiveness, and continuous reality. The B.I.A. said that the people in Swanton led by the late Homer St. Francis and now his daughter April Merrill, have not shown or provided any evidence that ANY OF THE FAMILIES/ St. Francis's, Lampman's, Martel's, Hoague's, etc, including the Phillips family, are Abenaki descendants, let alone "Indian". Indeed, I do vehemently disagree with Donald Stevens statements. "Lateral Violence" is not what I am doing. I am showing and providing what these groups and Donald Stevens refuse to show and provide. WHY are they "hiding" their genealogical evidence? Because it will show and provide the evidence that my position is correct! They are NOT who they appear to be nor who they say they are. Read my blog and definitely read the BIA conclusions. Its sad when people pretend, and continue to ignore the reality. The Phillips folks may have made baskets, they may have been in the Eugenics, and they may have married into the St. Francis family up in Swanton, Vermont. They may have "Native ancestry" yet that still does not make them Abenakis. P.S. BTW my last name is spelled B-U-C-H-H-O-L-Z Mr. Donald Stevens. I will continue to expose the historical record documentation on my blog.
Review, Study, and Evaluate the content of this blog ASAP
Submitted by Douglas Lloyd Buchholz (not verified) on December 24, 2009 - 1:29am.
This man (Charles Lawrence "Megeso" Delaney Jr.) is connected to the late Homer St. Francis and then left and went with Connie Brow, Homer's cousin, and her companion at the time David Gilman, when this Mazipskwik "group" was created AFTER Homer St. and his cousin had a parting of the ways. IF Homer's group could not, did not, and will NOT show and provide the clear and convincing evidence that they are Abenaki descendants, then the satilite "groups" of which this Charles Megeso Delaney has to be questioned as to his genealogical connection to the Abenaki. I have found these "groups" claiming to being Abenakis, are not who they purport to be. Just read the content of the blog, the documents and the commentary. The truth will set Vermont free from these people professing to being Abenaki, when in all liklihood they are not. I do not trust this man.
WITHOUT the genealogical foundation of these "groups" leaders and their members/ citizens being shown and provided, the State's of Vermont and New Hampshire are just supposed to accept that these people are Abenakis, because they merely say so?! I think not. Just read the blog!!! Ask questions, and DEMAND the genealogical, historical, and social histories of these people! You will find that these people are attempting to b.s. the Archaeological Community, the State Legislature's of VT and NH.
Finally, First these proposed commission members and so-called community "leaders" need to prove that they are in fact Native American descendants!
MORE LIES ON TOP OF LIES.
Prove the individual genealogies and then treatie with the State. Dealing with the Federal government is not going to happen. All 7 criteria can not be met so why would the State of VT or NH entertain the proposed relationship with these "groups" residing within the State if they can't pass Federal
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requirements? I say again, who are these people and from whom do they descend? The PUBLIC, the Vermont Legislature, and the Archaeological Community NEED to demand the documented answers. Not some Fairy-Dusted B.S. poorly-constructed UN-SOURCED piece of garbage write-up entitled "Decolonizing the Abenaki: A Methodology for Detecting Vermont Tribal Identity" by Frederick Matthew Wiseman with a PhD in "studying" Indigenous Rocks!
Abenakis were NOT "hiding in plain sight", and most importantly they were NOT targeted by the Eugenic's Program of Vermont "because they were allegedly of Abenaki descent". Read the blog, Reinvention of the Vermont Abenaki, read and review this site and the BIA Report conclusions, regarding Swanton's St. Francis "group" which Charles Delaney Jr. comes from.
They are using the Archaeological Community to pressure the State's of Vermont and New Hampshire to officially recognize these fraudulent groups claiming to be Abenaki. Their genealogical foundation, their historical records, and their Social Histories do NOT support their claims and proclamations.
Again, the Legislature needs to get educated and find some way to review and evaluate the genealogies on these people claiming to being Abenaki. When the VCNAA Vermont Commission on Native American Affairs wanted to make it a condition for any group of persons claiming to being Abenaki, to show and provide their genealogical evidence and connectedness to the Abenaki, who screamed? The whole lot of these "groups" now called the Vermont Native Alliance. With these "groups" representatives controlling the VCNAA such as Mark Mitchell, Donald Stevens, and Charles Delaney, there is NO transparency, no accountability, no responsibility.
Genealogical evidence connecting these people to the bonefide documented Abenaki ancestors NEEDS to be required and demanded.
I am not against the legitimately documented Abenaki persons gaining recognition from either State (Vermont or New Hampshire) but yet, none of these "groups" claiming to being Abenaki have not done so. Even that fancy french braid that Charles Delaney Jr. has in this video does not fool me. The "archaeological community" in both Vermont and New Hampshire have their share of "sympathizers" and "empathizers" towards these "Alleged and Reinvented Abenaki" "groups". (Like Dr. Richard Boisvert who is N.H. Coordinator of the State Conservation and Rescue Archaeology Program (SCRAP)/ Deputy State. Archaeologist of New Hampshire/ New Hampshire Archeological Society 2nd Vice President/ N.H. Division of Historical Resources; Giovanna Peebles State Historic Preservation Officer, or SHPO/ VT State Archeologist; and Professor Robert Goodby who is a Ph.D. and Monadnock Archaeological Consulting, LLC., and of Franklin Pierce College).
But no where are genealogical foundations being shown and provided to prove that these "groups" or their leaders/members are of Abenaki descent.
Genealogical evidence is the beginning and end of all this 'nonsense' coming from Charles Lawrence "Megeso" Delaney Jr., and the rest of these "groups" so called Leaders, Chiefs, Representatives!
