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Saturday, August 29, 2015

Some More "Details" Genealogically Accurate regarding the Phelps/ and Phillips Family Lineage Branches.

January 18, 1926
Miss Harriet Abbot
19 Brooks Ave.
Burlington, Vt.

Dear Madam;
I have learned that Mrs. Stephen Meyers [Malinda (nee: Phillips) Myers] lives in the corner of Champlain and Pearl Streets in the brick house in the West side of Champlain Street at the corner. She can tell you all about the Phillips, as she went Gypsying with them and can also tell you about Miss Baker [her sister Louise (nee: Phillips) Baker] and her travels as Gypsies.
W. S. Heath, Town Clerk of South Burlington, Chittenden County, Vermont

January 29, 1926
State Department of Public Welfare
Augusta, Maine

In Re: Phillips family

We are interested in the Phillips family that has inter-married with many families which have cost the State of Vermont a good deal of money. These people in the past were known as “gypsies” but in all probability they are part French, part Indian and part Negro. (largely Negro). As far as I know they have never been registered as colored. There was certain Peter Phillips who was known as “One-eyed Peter” [confusion with Mathias a.k.a. Michael Phillips], “King of the Gypsies.”

Matilda Leopard Phillips says that Old Mike died at the age of 104 at the home of his granddaughter, Matilda Leopard Phillips herself. Cora Stark Phillips and relatives about Peacham state that Old Mike Phillips had only one eye, but it is apparent that they are confusing Mike with Pete. HEA

He is said to have had about eighteen children, who were of many different colors from black down through yellow and white. These people wandered up and down the shores of Lake Champlain stealing what they could lay their hands on, hunting and fishing out of season and often living in boats [confusion on her part with the Jerome “Pirate” family]. Some years ago a branch of these Phillips’s went to Belfast, Maine. I think the oldest member of the family that went, was known as Antoine Phillips Jr., [son of Peter Phillips and his first wife Delina Benoit a.k.a. Delia Rosa Bone] I am anxious to get not only the Dependency, Delinquency and Defective records of the Maine branch of this family but also to obtain the genealogy of the Maine family so that I may connect it up with the people here [meaning Burlington, Chittenden County, Vermont].
Just at present the Phillips here are trying to hide their connection with “Old Pete”, undoubtedly because their children have married into white families. I am told that the original Peter married for his first wife [his first wife was Delia Rosalie Rosa Benoit dit Livernois dit Benware dit Benway dit Bone] Eliza Way, and that she had a brother Newton Way who lives in Belfast, Maine and who is fairly well-to-do.
                I wonder if the State of Maine or any Social Agency of Maine has been in contact with this family or any of its branches. We have here in Burlington, a Mrs. Steven Myers [Melinda Phillips, daughter of Peter Phillips Sr. and his first wife Delia Bone] who was the daughter of a certain Peter Phillips, who she says died in Maine [Peter Phillips Sr. died in December 1906 while in Peacham, Caledonia County, Vermont]. She denied any connection with the original Pete Phillips.
                From another source, I was told that a certain Willy Phillips married a Nellie Gray and this couple had five children who lived in Belfast, Maine. If you can help to obtain the information which I would like I would appreciate it very much. If these people are not known to your office, probably you can turn my letter over to some other agency which has been in touch with the family. Any help will be very much appreciated.
HEA/GA, In charge of Field Research

Melinda Phillips – spouse of Stephen Aiken Myers

Melinda Phillips traveled with the Gypsy Phillips’s.  She married Stephen (or Aiken) Myers.  Mr. Myers traveled with the Phillips’s for some time but after he married Melinda she made him settle down.      
Mr. Daniel O'Brien states that there is a tradition that Melinda is the illegitimate child of the wife of Old Pete Phillips by Pete's brother Mike [Mathias] who appropriated Pete’s wife Delia Bone [Benoit] while Pete was in prison.  Mr. O’Brien thinks that this is what makes Mrs. Myers dislike giving information because she feels that people are probing into her past.
However, Cora Stark Phillips, wife of Pete's son Napoleon, says that Mike was not promiscuous and that he would not have done such a thing as the above.  Such a statement, however, is not necessarily to be believed as Mrs. Cora Stark Phillips though fairly intelligent married at 14 and is not always truthful.  She also seems to be unusually fond of Mike Phillips herself.
After her marriage Melinda Phillips Myers settled down and has become an unusually fine citizen.  She has the good qualities of the better class of colored people.  She is a good worker and has worked for the best families in Burlington and in 1926 was still doing day work although she must be very old.  In 1926 Mrs. Myers was living in an extremely nice second floor flat on Lower Pearl Street.  It was very well furnished and of a much higher grade than that of her sister Mrs. Martin.  Mrs. Myers was living with some of her unmarried sons and working out every day doing housework for very nice people in Burlington.  She is apparently a very decent sort of woman and thrifty.  Although friendly she was somewhat suspicious and did not wish to give much information.
Melinda has a number of daughters who have married well and she has a number of nice grandchildren.  The visitor thought that possibly she did not wish the husbands of her daughters to know about the colored blood in the family.
Mr. Daniel O'Brien of South Burlington spoke of one of the daughters of Melinda.  He said she was a very fine girl.
In 1926 Mrs. Melinda Phillips Myers was a stout, healthy-looking woman.  She was very swarthy and showed her colored blood to some extent.

On page 11 of the Eugenics, "For example, they tell of some member of their tribe [meaning family] Antoine Phillips Sr.' father Peter Phelps living to be 111 years old [See November 1865 Newspaper clipping] etc, when there is no good evidence of that the age was as far advanced as that."

So when Melinda (nee: Phillips) Myers was visited and interviewed "by the agent" at her residence, did Harriett E. Abbott question Melinda about the "original" Peter Phelps and NOT her own father Peter Phillips? And that Melinda Myers denied connection with "Peter Phelps, a colored man who died November 10, 1865 having lived in St. Albans for nearly half a century"? Or was she attempting to deny any connection with her own father? And if so, why? 

WHY would 'they' tell of some member of their FAMILY living to be 111 years old ...

... if this was not Antoine Philips Sr.'s own father Peter Phelps who happened to have coincidentally died at the printed age of 111 years ... specifically? Who told or SAID to the newspaper 'wire' that Peter Phelps, a colored man ... was alleged 111 years of age? 

Was Melinda (nee: Phillips) Myers (along with other Phillips family members) 'racially denying' and/ or trying to 'distance' themselves from their own Phelps/Phillips ancestors ethnicity ... of being Black, Colored, Negro, or Mulatto? 

In 1924, Virginia passed the Racial Integrity Act, a series of anti-miscegenation laws that would be overturned by the landmark case Loving v. Virginia in 1967. The act defined a white person as someone with blood that was “entirely white, having no known, demonstrable or ascertainable admixture of the blood of another race.” Yet when faced with the fact that many rich Virginia planters claimed to be descendants of Pocahontas, the state allowed that a white person could be up to one-sixteenth Native American. A person with one-sixteenth black blood, however, was still black.

The One-Drop-Rule

REMEMBER, Melinda (nee: Phillips) Myers and other family members were visited and interviewed by Harriett E. Abbott, white-at-the-same-time, in Virginia, this 1924 Racial Integrity Act was LEGAL ... until 1967 when it was overturned.

More "Details" Genealogically Accurate regarding the Phelps/ and Phillips Family Lineage Branches.

September 09, 1850

1850 Federal Population Census – St. Albans, Franklin County, VT
152 - 154 Household:
James McDurphy – Black Age: 50 Laborer Born: Vermont
Mary Ann McDurphy – Black Age: 30 Born: New York
Frederick McDurphy – Black Age: 15 Born: Vermont
Betsey McDurphy – Black Age: 14 Born: Vermont
Theodore Brace – Black Age: 29 Laborer Born: Vermont
Sarah Prince – Black Age: 29 Born: Vermont
Alanson Brace – Black Age: 11 Born: Vermont
Francis Brace – Black Age: 08 Born: Vermont
Sylvester Brace – Black Age: 06 Born: Vermont
Douglas Brace – Black Age: 04 Born Vermont
Peter Brace – Black Age: 02 Born Vermont
GENERATION #1 Peter Phelps – Black Age: 70 Born ca. 1780 Vermont
Amy Pollison – Black Age: 75 Born New York [Cato Pollison’s spouse?]
James Gould – Black Age: 18 Born Vermont
154 – 156 Household:
Sylvester Day – Black Age: 40 Laborer Born Canada
Ama Day – Black Age: 28 Born: Vermont
Alanson Day – Black Age: 17 Born Vermont
Diantha Holmes – Black Age: 70 Born New York

[If Peter Phelps was 70 years old in 1850, he would reasonably be 85 when he passed away]

September 13, 1850
1850 Federal Population Census – St. Albans, Franklin County, VT
Household 289-291:
George Prince – 30 yrs. old male black Laborer Born in Vt. Cannot read nor write.
Caroline Billings – 25 yrs. female black Born in Vt. Cannot read nor write.
Daniel Prince – 08 yrs male black Born in Vt. Attended School.
Rose Anne Prince – 06 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Isaac Prince – 02 yrs. male black Born in Vt.
Household 290-292:
Henry Prince – 60 yrs. male black Laborer Born in Ct.
Hannah Barlow – 40 female black Born in Vt.
Charles Prince – 10 yrs. male black Born in Vt.
Rebecca Prince – 08 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Parthenia Prince – 06 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Elizabeth Prince – 04 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Florence Prince – 01 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Household 291-293:
Josiah Baldwin – 50 yrs. male black Born in Vt.
Emily Baldwin – 21 yrs. female black Born in Vt.
Pegg Phelps – 60 yrs. female black Born in Vt. 1790 [Peggy (nee: Moseley)]
Mary Ann Phelps – 10 yrs. Female black Born in Vt. 1840 [Josiah Bolden's daughter Mariah Helen Bolden by his first wife Sarah (nee: Vanderpool).

Apparently, in the 1850 Census, the Census taker may have surmised in error that Peggy and her step-daughter were 'Phelps', but in fact, neither were. 
In fact, Josiah Bolden married to Peggy (nee: Moseley) on April 13, 1855 in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont. 
Mariah Helen (nee: Bolden) was born to Josiah Bolden and his first wife, Sarah (nee: Vanderpool) born in 1844 in Jericho, VT ... on June 03, 1872 in Bristol, Addison County, VT married to Isaac Prince, son of Isaac R. Prince and Rhoda Freeman.
Perhaps the reason Pegg(y) and the future stepdaughter "Mary" were identified as being Phelps was merely because Peggy lived with Peter Phelps (?) ... 

September 17, 1850
1850 Federal Population Census – St. Albans, Franklin County, VT
Line 11 – Household 426 – 431:
William Phelps Age 31 yrs. Born: Abt. 1819 VT (Blk) Black Occupation: Laborer
Rosanna [Prince] Age: 26 yrs. Born: Abt. 1824 VT (Blk) Black
Lewis Phelps Age: 12 yrs. (Blk) Black
Cynthia Phelps Age: 17 yrs. (Blk) Black
William Phelps Age: 04 yrs. (Blk) Black
Russell Phelps Age: 03 yrs. (Blk) Black
Orange Phelps Age: 2 months (Blk) Black

Canadian Lower Canada Census – Ste. Armand, Missisquoi County, Quebec, Canada
No. 36: William Phelps Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 35 b. 1816
No. 37: Rosanna Prince United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 29 b. 1823
No. 38: Louis Phelps United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 13 b. 1839
No. 39: Orange Phelps United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 02 b. 1850
No. 40: Cynthia Phelps United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 09 b. 1843
No. 41: William Phelps Jr. United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 06 b. 1846
No. 42: George Prince United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 28 b. 1824
No. 43: Caroline Billings Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 27 b. 1825
No. 44: Daniel Prince Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 10 b. 1842
No. 45: Rosanna Prince Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 06 b. 1846
No. 46: Isaac Prince Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 03 b. 1849
No. 47: Peter Prince Canada B Episcopal Methodist Age 01 b. 1851
No. 48: James Phelps United States B Episcopal Methodist Age 22 b. 1830

[All of the above persons were identified as being Black/Negro/African descendants]

1850 Highgate, Franklin County, Vermont Census
Antoine Phillps Sr. Age 36 [Identified as B (for Black)] Born in Canada, Cannot Read nor Write.

Antoine b. ca. 1814 Black Canada
Katherine b. ca. 1820 Canada [she was born and baptized in 1806]
Peter b. ca. 1829 Mulatto Canada
Antoine b. ca. 1834 Mulatto Canada
Michael b. ca. 1836 Mulatto Canada
Melnas b. ca. 1838 Mulatto Canada
Favine b. ca. 1846 Mulatto Canada
Janett b. ca. 1848 Mulatto Canada

January 21, 1859
The Burlington Free Press Newspaper
Alleged Assault with Intent to Kill –
The examination of the parties concerned in the recent assault on an Irishman named Goulding, took place before Justice Hollenbeck, Wednesday forenoon. The testimony of the witnesses went to show that the principle criminal was Peter Phillips Sr. – (a son of GENERATION #2 Antoine Phillips, otherwise known as “Black Jack”) who made a violent and unprovoked attacked first upon Mr. Patrick Cassidy, an Irishman, whom he assaulted with a bottle, an axe, a sled stake, besides giving him divers kicks, blows in the face with the fist and other gentle reminders of his presence, and next upon Goulding, who interfered to preserve the peace, and who received a blow from Peter Phillips Sr. which fractured his skull, and placed his life in jeopardy.
Antoine Phillips Jr. and a young Frenchman named Peter Trueheart, appeared to have been participants in the outrage, by keeping the bystanders from interfering with the more violent operations of Peter Phillips Sr., and by telling him, at one stage of the affray, to “kill” Cassidy. All three were, probably, under the influence of liquor.
The three were bound over for trial at the next term of the County Court, in the sum of $500.00 dollars each, for breach of the Peace, and Assault with Intent-to-Kill.

January 21, 1859
The Burlington Free Press Newspaper
Affray and Almost Murder
A drunken row, resulting in the dangerous and perhaps fatal injury of an Irishman named Goldin, occurred on the Williston road, near the corner of Dorset Street, Thursday night. It appears, from the information gathered by us concerning the affair that a low grocery is kept at the place indicated, by a man named Wheeler. Here an Irish teamster and a Frenchman [the ‘Frenchman’ was Peter Trueheart] named GENERATION #3 Peter Phillips Sr., known by the soubriquet of “Black Jack,” (given him, doubtless, from his complexion, which is very dark) after getting well primed with fighting rum, fell into an altercation, which they continued after leaving Wheeler’s place, and finally came to blows in front of Goldin’s house, which is nearly opposite the grocery shop. Goldin went out bare-headed, and mixed in the affray, probably to separate the combatants, when he received a terrible blow from Peter Phillips Sr., given with a cart-rung, fracturing the skull into which a man’s thumb might be laid.
Peter Phillips Sr. was arrested Friday morning by officers Flanagan and White, and lodged in jail. He is represented to us as an ugly fellow, and has been “hauled up” once before, for biting a man’s nose nearly off, in some similar affray.

January 22 1859
Vermont Phoenix Brattleboro, VT Newspaper
Two colored men, father [Antoine Sr.] and son [Peter Sr.], surnamed Phillips and a Frenchman [Peter Trueheart], nephew of the elder [Antoine Sr.] Phillips, were committed to jail at Burlington on Friday, for a murderous assault upon Peter Goulding of Hinesburgh, fracturing his skull with a cart rung and otherwise bruising him in a shocking manner. Peter Phillips Sr. has been dealt with once before, for biting a man’s nose nearly off.

January 22 1859
Vermont Phoenix Brattleboro, VT Newspaper
Two colored men, father [Antoine Sr.] and son [Peter Sr.], surnamed Phillips and a Frenchman [Peter Trueheart], nephew of the elder [Antoine Sr.] Phillips, were committed to jail at Burlington on Friday, for a murderous assault upon Peter Goulding of Hinesburgh, fracturing his skull with a cart rung and otherwise bruising him in a shocking manner. Peter Phillips Sr. has been dealt with once before, for biting a man’s nose nearly off.

April 11, 1859
Windsor State Prison of Vermont Intake Book
Peter Phillips age 26 years old, at 5’9” in stature, having blue eyes, black hair and a dark complexion, identified as a mulatto, being born in Franklin County, Vermont, was convicted of the assault with the intent to kill, on April 09, 1859 in Burlington, Chittenden County, Vermont, was admitted to the Windsor, Vermont State Prison, on April 11, 1859 for two years being his sentence. He was discharged from that sentence on April 09, 1861.


The Burlington Free Press Newspaper
November 17, 1865
Peter Phelpsa colored man 111 years old, who had lived in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont nearly fifty years, died on Friday. He died on November 10, 1865.

November 17, 1865
The St. Johnsbury – Caledonian Record Newspaper, Page
Franklin County
Peter Phelps, a colored man who lived at St. Albans for nearly half a century [ca. 1815], died on Friday at the age of 111 years.

November 18, 1865
The Salem Observer Newspaper, Salem, Massachusetts, Vol. XLVIII, Issue 46, Page 02
Peter Phelps, a colored man aged 111 years, died at St. Albans last Friday.

December 01, 1865
The Orleans Independent Standard Newspaper, Page 02
A Centenarian – Peter Phelps, a colored man who has lived in St. Albans for nearly half a century, died on Friday of last week at the advanced age of 111 years.

December 01, 1865
The Watchman Newspaper, in Montpelier, Vermont, Page 03
Peter Phelps, a colored man, who has lived in St. Albans for nearly a half century, dies Friday, at the advanced age of 111 years as we are informed.

[Clearly, genealogically, historically and socially, the PHILLIPS family were IN St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont periodically from 1860 through 1900] And were associating with the PHELPS descendants.]

August 12, 1870
1870 Federal Population Census – St. Albans, Franklin County, VT
Household 105 – 108
William J. Phelps Age: 25 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born: Vermont
Elizabeth Phelps (Wife) Age: 21 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Keeping House Born: Vermont
Ida Phelps (Daughter) Age: 01 yr. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 106 – 109
Jerry Coburn Age: 25 yrs. (B) Black Born: Virginia
Agnes Coburn Age: 17 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Clarence Coburn Age: 1 month (B) Black Born: Vermont
Ephraim Brace Age: 10 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Wymon Brace Age: 16 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 107 – 110
Mark Belden Age: 34 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born: Vermont
Cynthia Belden Age: 27 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Keeping House Born: Vermont
Alberta Belden Age: 14 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Sarah Belden Age: 9 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Joseph Belden Age: 7 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 108 – 111
William Phelps Age: 48 yrs. [b. ca. 1822] (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born: Vermont
Rosanna [Prince] Age: 46 yrs. [b. ca. 1824] (B) Black Born: Vermont
Julius Phelps Age: 05 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 109 – 112
Timothy Prince Age: 20 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born: Vermont
Mary [Phelps] Age: 17 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 110 – 113
Abraham Prince Age: 36 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born: Vermont
Elizabeth Prince Age: 40 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Sarah Prince Age: 14 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Agnes Prince Age: 7 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Henry Prince Age: 5 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Mary Prince Age: 2 months (B) Black Born: Vermont
Isaac Prince Age: 23 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont

Household 417 – 435
Edward Bery Age: 40 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Barber Born: New York
Rhoda Age: 28 yrs. (W) White Occupation: Keeping House Born: Canada
John B. Bery Age: 07 yrs. (W) White Born: Canada
Eliza Bery Age: 05 yrs. (W) White Born: Canada
Charles Bery Age: 04 yrs. (W) White Born: Canada
Hattie Bery Age: 4 months (W) White Born: Vermont
Alexander Garrison Age: 40 yrs. (B) Black Occupation: Laborer Born: New York
Diana Garrison Age: 20 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Lewis Philips Age: 37 (B) Black Occupation: Farm Laborer Born; Vermont
Lorena [nee: Griffin] Philips Age: 37 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Mary Ann Philips Age: 19 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Charles Philips Age: 13 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Lewis Philips Age: 07 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Emma Philips Age: 02 yrs. (B) Black Born: Vermont
Sally Philips Age: 2 months (B) Black Born: Vermont
Household 419 – 437
Daniel Profit [Prophet] Age: 26 yrs. (B) Black Born: Virginia
Bridget Profit (W) White Age: 22 yrs. Born: Canada

April 25, 1872
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper
Trial for Murder
The Laselle Street Homicide
Franklin County Court:
Daniel Prophet, colored, testified that he lived in No. 6 Burton & Laselle block, next to the last tenement to the west end. …
Bridget Prophet, wife of Daniel Prophet, testified that she heard the shot fired; that she awoke about five minutes before.

December 02, 1872
Death Record of Louise Phelps [Phillips] – St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont Page 601
Age: 7 months 2 days Born: April 30, 1872 St. Albans, VT
Cause of death: Lung Fever
Father: Peter Phelps [Anthony/Antoine/Antwine Phillips/Philippe and Catherine Coderre’s son]
Mother: Louise

October 19, 1875
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper
Long Suffering Woman
The neighborhood of “the Block” was the scene of another of those family jars for which it is famous. On Saturday evening about 10:00 o’clock p.m., a colored man named William Phelps was arrested by the Sheriff for abusing and assaulting his wife Elizabeth, and was lodged in Mr. Morrill’s restaurant to await an examination into said charges made against him by State’s Attorney Newton, which took place yesterday morning before Justice Gilman, and occupied all the aforenoon. Considerable evidence was adduced on both sides; the gist of the evidence being that William Phelps did not use discretion in assisting his wife Elizabeth down the front steps of a neighbor’s house, and the consequence was Elizabeth’s falling to the ground insensible, and being taken care of by Mr. Newport’s family, who came forward as principle witnesses against the prisoner, William Phelps. It also appeared that when Mrs. Phelps was able to and did go home with her husband, about half an hour after the unfortunate accident, her husband William Phelps did attempt to display considerable fierceness and agility with a razor in the vicinity of Elizabeth’s person, and she, in putting up her left hand to avoid the sharp instrument had the thumb nearly severed at the first joint. The prisoner and his wife totally denied either of the before mentioned assaults, acknowledging only a little family jar, but overwhelming evidence knocked their statements higher than a kite, the former character of the respondent being  ventilated by State’s Attorney Newton to His Honor.
F. W. McGettrick, Esq., on behalf of the respondent made an eloquent appeal, scouting the insinuation made by the State’s Attorney that Mr. Newport was the “peace maker” and Mr. William Phelps the “peace breaker.” But it was of no avail. The Court was convinced that the peace and dignity of the State had been injured to the amount of $8.00 dollars and costs, in which sum the respondent was muleted,
and the boys sang:
A darkey who lived in “the Block”
Gave his wife such a terrible shock
By means of a razor,
That her friends had to raise her,
And her husband was placed in the dock.

St. Albans, Vermont City Directory
Douglas Brace, laborer, h Water n Lasell
Ethan Brace, laborer, h Water n Lasell
Jefferson Brace, foundryman, h Lasell n Oak
Peter Brace, laborer, h 12 Lasell
Timothy Brace, laborer, h 17 Water
William Phelps, freight transferor for C.V.R.R. h. Lasell n Water [See April 19, 1986]
Abel Prince, laborer, h Lasell n Oak
Daniel Prince, Sr. laborer h. 4 Lasell
Daniel Prince, Jr. laborer h. 4 Lasell
Mrs. Isaac Prince, h 11 Lasell
Timothy Prince, laborer h 16 Water
Daniel Prophet, laborer, h 13 Water

St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont City Directory
Dion Brace, laborer, h Water c Lasell
Ethan Brace, laborer, h Lasell n Elm
Fred Brace, Bell boy, Welden House
Jefferson Brace, foundry man, h Walnut n Lake
Peter Brace, laborer, h 12 Lasell
T. Brace, laborer, h 17 Water
Henry Peters, laborer, h 11 Newton
Moses Peters, laborer, h Pine n Lake
William Phelps, barber, 36 Lake, h 16 Water
Peter Phillips, brakeman, h 11 Pine

May 14, 1896
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 04
Henry Switzer was brought before Justice Hall charged with intoxication. He pleaded guilty and fined $5.00 dollars and costs. H. E. Wheeler prosecuted.

October 19, 1896
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 05
Municipal Court – St. Albans, VT
Mike Phillips was up before the municipal court Saturday on the dual charge of ‘breach of the peace’ and ‘intoxication’, to both of which charges he pleaded guilty. He was fined $2.00 dollars and costs for breach of peace, which was committed at the “Blocks,” and $5.00 dollars and costs for intoxication.
He disclosed on E. C. Wood. Wood pleaded not guilty to this charge but on examination was fined $20.00 dollars and costs. He appealed from the decision of the court.
Daniel Profit Jr. pleaded not guilty to a charge of petty larceny of stealing ‘babbitt’ metal [also known as “bearing metal”] from the railroad company. He was tried by the court, found guilty, and sentenced to two months in the House of Correction.
Several breach of the peace cases will be tried by the court tomorrow. Clovi Longway, Samuel Longway, and Mike Senecal are the respondents.

October 24, 1896
The St. Albans Daily Messenger Newspaper, Page 05
Municipal Court
Henry Switzer was up, charged with intoxication. He pleaded not guilty, but on hearing was adjudged to be guilty and fined $5.00 and costs. He appealed.

St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont City Directory
William J. Phelps, laborer, h 17 Water
Peter Phillips, laborer, bds 13 Water

[Peter Phillips was boarding close to his cousin, at Daniel Prophet's place of residence]

February 01, 1897 – February 01, 1898
Danville, Chittenden County, Vermont Town Report
Overseer’s Report –
Jake Way and family $15.00 [This Jacob Way was also known as "Gypsy Devil Jake Way]
Expenses Outside of Poor House:
Jake Way $15.00

June 01, 1897
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 06
Town Affairs Section
Henry Switzer, one of the denizens of the Blocks, was arrested yesterday on a writ of mittimus for an old drunkenness charge.

April 18, 1898
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 05
Peter Gonyea and Henry Switzer who were arrested Saturday night for intoxication, were fined $5.00 dollars  and costs by Judge Flinn this morning. Goyea took an appeal. State’s Attorney Feeters prosecuted.
This afternoon Jodn Robitor, who was disclosed on by Henry Switzer, had a hearing and was discharged.

June 23, 1904         
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper
Justice Court Proceedings Section
Walter Brace was arraigned before Justice Kearney and pleaded guilty to charges of breach of the peace and intoxication. He was fined $5.00 dollars and costs in each instance, with the usual alternative sentences. …
Mrs. William Phelps and Cynthia Phelps were discharged. The complaints against them were intoxication in Mrs. Phelps’ case and Grand Larceny and Gross Lewdness in Cynthia Phelps’ case. Cynthia Phelps was charged with the theft of $10.00 dollars from Byron Barrett, of Sheldon, Vermont. Byron Barrett was presented in court, but refused to testify against Cynthia Phelps.
Byron Barrett, of Sheldon, Vermont, who claimed he had lost $10.00 dollars while on a visit to the Phelps’ domicile at “the Blocks” on June 15, 1904, and who was in such condition that he was entertained at the jail for the evening, was arraigned before the Justice on a charge of intoxication. He concluded he had better hedge on his $10.00 story and pleaded guilty to the charge of drunkenness and was fined $5.00 dollars and costs.
The Phelps and Barrett cases were prosecuted by City Grand Juror C. H. McGettrick, S. W. Flinn appearing for the respondents. …
Arthur Brace, better known as “Babe,” was arraigned before Justice Kearney to answer to a charge of a breach of the peace. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was fined $10.00 and costs with the usual alternative sentence in the house of correction at Rutland. He chose the alternative sentence.

February 13, 1905
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 04
The “Blocks”
The Barre Times prides itself on the fact that its home city is disgraced by no such institution as the malodorous “Blocks” of St. Albans.
The contemporary should not mistake the significance of mere externals, and reason that because vice does not segregate in the Dialect city there is none there or that because to a certain extent it does segregate in St. Albans there is more here than there is in Barre. Strange as the assertion may appear, perhaps even more shocking to some people, St. Albans is manifestly the gainer under present conditions because of those very same “Blocks,” upon the theory that it is immeasurably better for the lowest and most vicious class of people in a community to herd themselves than to be scattered throughout the multitude as a nuisance and a contamination. If it could be so ordered that there were no such people in St. Albans as not inhabit the “Blocks,” it would be preferable, to be sure, but, just so long as human life and character are what they are, the law of social gravitation will precipitate this moral filth and wretchedness and depravity to the bottom, where it is best that it should remain alone.
Every now and then some honest champion of right-living argues that the “Blocks” are a disgrace to St. Albans and should be wiped out, but that would not mend matters any. It would simply scatter the wretched beings that live there throughout various, respectable neighborhoods in the city. There would be no less vice in St. Albans, and in time, through pernicious influence of such an enforced association of cleanliness with filth, there would be more. The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper has often urged that every pains be taken to keep these unfortunates together to prevent their drifting elsewhere, for this very reason, but that in the meantime the city government should ordain some manner of tenement house law that would compel landlords to maintain buildings that would meet with modern sanitary regulations and then make their tenants keep them clean. St. Albans has had a great deal of experience with this problem at the “Blocks” and it has learned that prayers and psalm-singing and missions and all that kind of thing do precious little good there so long as the wretched creatures are compelled to inhabit dens that by their very construction and environment breed depravity. The first step in the reform of these people is to teach them self-respect. Preach the gospel of soap and water to them, give them the means to put it into practice, and make them do it. It is a long hard path they must travel, to be sure, and not all of them will follow it any way, whatever effort is put forth to have them do so. But it is as true today as it ever ways that “Cleanliness is next to godliness,” and not only next, but comes first.

As can be seen per the above documented chart, Miss Harriett E. Abbott of the Vermont Eugenics Survey KNEW and was mapping out, the PHELPS descendants genealogically. William J. Phelps wife Mary was not a Blanchard, but rather her maiden name was Barber. 

William Phelps who married Rosanna Prince, was the son of Peter Phelps who died November 10, 1865, and was a sibling to Antoine Phillips Sr. who had married Catherine Emery dit Codere.

September 24, 1905
Death Record of William J. Phelps – St. Albans, Franklin County, VT
Color: Negro
Age: 61 yrs.
Occupation: Laborer
Born: Vermont
Father: William Phelps
Mother: Rose Prince

October 08, 1905
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper, Page 05
Death of William Phelps
William Phelps, of Lascelle Street, in St. Albans, died suddenly of heart disease Sunday afternoon at 2 o’clock p.m. Mr. Phelps had been ill for several weeks with a fever sore but had recovered and his condition was much better than it had been for some time. Mr. Phelps, who was a Civil War veteran, was 65 years old and is survived by his wife and two daughters.

Funeral of William Phelps
The funeral of William Phelps, who died of heart failure at 2:00 o’clock p.m. on Sunday Afternoon at his residence on Lascelle Street, was held at 10:00 o’clock a.m. Tuesday morning at his home, the Rev. E. E. Marggraf officiating. The burial was in the South Main Street Cemetery, the bearers being William Powell, Daniel Prince, Charles James, and William Satchell. The funeral was attended by a large number of representative citizens of the city.

November 10, 1906
The St. Albans Messenger Newspaper
Helping the Poor in St. Albans
Mrs. William Phelps [Mary Jane (nee: Barber) Blanchard - Phelps], of Laselle Street, was rescued from a deplorable condition yesterday afternoon as the results of Overseer of the Poor Napoleon J. Jarvis’ campaign against squalid homes. She was found in a most destitute condition, without fire, with little clothing, and practically no household furniture. Mr. Jarvis placed her in the hospital. Arrangements were made today whereby she left here on the train at 4:00 o’clock p.m. to live in Randolph, Vermont with her daughter.

December 22, 1906
Death Record of Peter Phillips – Peacham, Caledonia County, VT
Date of Birth: unknown
Age: 97 yrs.
Occupation: none
Wife: Eliza Way
Father: Antoine Phillips b. Montreal, Canada
Mother: Unknown
Birthplace of Mother: Unknown
Informant: W. N. Blanchard, Peacham, VT.
Cause of Death: After exposure to cold with insufficient clothing.
Date of burial: December 23, 1906

December 22, 1906
The St. Johnsbury – Caledonian Record Newspaper
Peter Phillips died at the north part of the town and the burial was at Peacham, Sunday afternoon.

March 16, 1907
Department of the Interior – Bureau of Pensions – Washington, D.C.
Montpelier, Vt.
To: The Commissioners of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
I have the honor to return herewith all papers in the claim for pension of Mary J. Phelps, alleged widow of William J. Phelps, late of Co. C., 54th Mass. Vol. Inf. No. 836,950, P. O. Randolph, Orange County, Vt.
This case was referred to the S.E.D. for special examination to determine the question of legal widowhood, and came to me for the initial examination. This claimant is a white woman, and the soldier was a Negro.
I have known the claimant about five years, having examined cases in which she was a witness soon after I came to the state. As will be seen from the testimony, she has been a notorious character all of her life, having given birth to at least three illegitimate children by as many different men prior to her marriage to the Negro. She is said to have been a common prostitute, consorting with Negroes and the lowest sort of trash prior to her marriage to William J. Phelps.
It appears from the evidence that William J. Phelps had never been previously married, but that he had lived in adulterous relations with his own aunt raising a family of children by her prior to his marriage to the claimant. It appears that he finally brought this claimant to his home and that when his aunt Elizabeth J. Prince objected to her Mary Jane nee: Barber presence, he drove her [Elizabeth Prince] and her children out and she made complaint to the authorities, which lead to the marriage of William J. Phelps and this claimant Mary Jane Barber.
The claimant and John B. Blanchard, both deny under oath that they were never married to each other and while neither of them is to believed under oath, it is evidence that they were never married, for the reason that John B. Blanchard, was sent to States Prison, from St. Albans, Vt., in 1872, after having been convicted of the crime of Bigamy, and served until June 17, 1874, when he returned to St. Albans, Vt., and soon after took up with this claimant Mary Jane Barber. It is not likely that he would have entered into another marriage contract immediately after having completed a term in prison for bigamy, from the same town.
In examining the marriage records of St. Albans, I failed to find that John B. Blanchard had been married to this claimant, but I did find that he was married to one Margaret Hogan, on December 09, 1871, and I found this woman to have been a sister of Atty, C. P. Hogan, of St. Albans, Vt., one of the best men in the state, whose deposition will appear herewith and it was he who discovered that John B. Blanchard was a bigamist, and secured his conviction.
The Negro William J. Phelps was a notorious character, and during his lifetime, he was convicted of running a house of ill-fame, and sent to the work-house, and this claimant was at the same time sent to the Poor House in Sheldon, Vermont. This claimant now has a daughter Cynthia by Phelps or some other Negro, who is a notorious character, and early this winter, she was sent to the work-house for drunkenness and disorderly conduct, and this claimant was sent to the hospital, and as soon as she was able to leave there she went to Randolph, Vt., to live with her oldest daughter Sarah Louise, by John B. Blanchard, wife of Frank Porter.
I have made a thorough canvass of the life and history of this claimant, and fail to find that she was ever married, except to William J. Phelps. She is a physical wreck, and I presume that her days of prostitution are over; she has not lived openly with any man since the death of William J. Phelps. She is said to be a hard drinker, and her morals are of the lowest. John B. Blanchard, is a pensioner, and has an alleged wife, now who is likely to become an applicant for pension some day. He alleges service in Co. I, 34th, N.Y. Vol. Infantry, and in Co. I, 95th, N.Y. Vol. Infantry, and for use in such case, a reference should be made of his claim, to this one so that his history may be examined in case of the filing of a widow’s claim. A long period of time has elapsed since taking the claimant’s initial statement, but I held the case in order to locate John B. Blanchard, and procure his testimony (He had spent the winter in Pittsburg, Pa.), and I found him by accident the very day he returned home. This case is submitted for the consideration of the Chief of the Board of Review.
Very respectfully,
W. H. Nelms
Special Examiner.
I was unable to procure but one witness to several of these signatures by mark. I have had two when possible without great inconvenience.
W.H. N.

November 27, 1913
Sheriff’s Search for Peter Philips on Charge of Assault on Neighbor.
Sheriffs of Caledonia and Orleans counties, with Canadian deputies, are searching the county from Walden across the Canadian line for Peter Phillipsbetter known as “Gypsy” Phillips, who is wanted on a charge of assaulting Edward Miles, a neighbor, who he accused of stealing his chickens. Edward Miles received a terrible gash in the head and blood poisoning has developed. Peter Phillips is 52 years old and had a wife and six children who are destitute. Edward Miles is 24 years old and has a wife and child.

December 03, 1913
The man hunt in process in Orleans and Caledonia counties for the ten days previous ended Thanksgiving Day when Sheriff Hill of Newport received word from Mansonville. P. Q. that GENERATION #4 Peter Phillips, a large Negro, 52 years of age [born 10 Jul 1873 allegedly in Quechee, Windsor Co., Vermont to Peter Phillips Sr. and 1m. Delia Benoit dit Benway dit Bone], wanted on the charge of assault on Ernest Miles, a neighbor in Walden, was there. Sheriff Hill took deputies and went to Mansonville. The Canadian officials deported the man and as he crossed the line was arrested by Hill's men without resistance. He was lodged in the county jail at Newport and taken to St. Johnsbury Friday. Peter Phillips lives at Walden Four Corners and the trouble of which this is the outcome occurred Nov. 6, when it is claimed Phillips struck Miles, whom he had accused of stealing some chickens.
The wound was not at first considered danger us, but later blood poisoning developed and the man died. The matter was brought to --the attention of State's Attorney W. A. Dutton and about that time Phillips disappeared.
He is known as "Gypsy Phillips", has led rather a roving life and it is claimed has had rather a checkered career. He is about 52, has a wife [Ida Champagny] less than half his age and five little children. They are in destitute circumstances.
Miles was 24 and leaves a wife and one child.
Phillips returned to his home sometime in the night a week ago Friday. His feet were bare and he had his wife find an old pair of tennis shoes for him.
He took also a dollar in money with which he said he would buy rubbers. R. N. Baldwin, D. A. Brahana and W. M. Fuller, all of Irasburg, who later were injured in an automobile accident, accompanied Sheriff Hill. Deputy Sheriff Ladd of Holland came in late Thanksgiving afternoon with Willie Westover, who has been wanted for a year on a charge of breaking and entering some cottages at East Charleston.
Westover has been hiding in Canada the past year and made bold to come over for Thanksgiving. He was promptly arrested and brought here and placed in the county jail.

May 19, 1926
From: Burton Kent [Town Clerk of Panton, Addison County, Vermont]
To: Miss Harriett Abbott
Eugenics Survey,
Mary Agnes Phillips is supposed to be a grand-child of GENERATION # 3 Peter Phillips, the old Negro Gypsy. Mary Agnes does not show the colored blood very strong as to color, but has the loose shambling walk of the Negro.
Mary Agnes is considered ignorant and immoral, yet can read and write.
If you are interested in “Evolution” you won’t have to trace Harrison Jerome and Mary Agnes Phillips back very far before you find the missing link.
Truly Yours,
Burton Kent

This morning I came across an interesting and informative article that gave me room for thought about the above documentations from the Vermont Eugenics Records SURVEY whose Field Research Harriett E. Abbott of which some of the above documents came from and were created by.

Ms. Sanger supported black eugenics, a racist attitude toward black and other minority babies, an elitist attitude toward those she regarded as ‘the feeble minded;’ speaking at a rally of Ku Klux Klan women; and communications with Adolph Hitler sympathizers."

“Also the notorious ‘Negro Project,’ which sought to limit, if not eliminate black births was Ms. Sanger's brainchild"

To Read MORE: 


Now we know what Vermont's Miss Harriett Abbott was doing regarding the Phillips family and the Negro Gypsies ca. 1925 through and into the 1930's!

It wasn't about Abenakis at all !!!

Pages 131-2 of Nancy L. Gallagher's book BREEDING BETTER VERMONTER'S, seems to show a 'distancing' (at least initially) between Margaret Sanger's organization and that of the Eugenics organization(s), UNTIL Henry Perkins subsequently began to bring the two organizations into partnership with one another ...

NOW, it makes sense WHY Harriett E. Abbott was going after the Phelps/ and the Philips etc families and that letter in May of 1926 from the Panton, VT Town Clerk Burton Kent stating that 

... Peter Phillips Sr. was a Negro Gypsy.

The emphasis was that they the Phillips family members were Negro's, Colored, Black's, and Mulatto's (from the paternal ancestry of Antoine Philips Sr.'s parents Peter Phelps and Pegg ______ ) and they had to stop making babies ...

Now go back and read the 4 Applications of the 4 alleged "Abenaki" groups that sought the Colonizer State of Vermont's Legislative "Recognition" ... and REVIEW what has been/was/ and is Frederick M. Wiseman Ph.D. claims and assertions about the Phillips Family, right along with Donald Warren Stevens Jr. 

... and hopefully one can DISCERN the TRUTH vs. MYTH and STORIES by these so-called "Abenakis" ... 

HERE above are 4 male generational descendants GENERATIONS #1 through 4, of the Phelps/Phillips ancestry, CLEARLY documented as either Black, Colored, Mulatto, or Negro.

Which IS validated by the Y-DNA results of two of Peter Phillips Sr.'s paternal descendants. 

How is it that Winifred (nee: Jerome) Yaratz, Frederick M. Wiseman (Ph.D.) and Donald W. Stevens Jr. could assert and claim repeatedly that Antoine Phillips Sr. was the son of the Upper Coos Chief "Philip" ca. 1796 ... and imply that Antoine Phillips Sr. himself was a brother to Louie Metallic ca. 1796 

... when in fact, genealogically, historically, and socially it is PROVEN otherwise?


DID anyone ever bother to CHECK the CLAIMS and ASSERTIONS
that were submitted
By Frederick Matthew Wiseman Ph.D. (an "Expert Scholar")
Donald Warren Stevens Jr. "Chief" of the Nulhegan Group

Certainly NOT Vt. Sen. Vincent Illuzzi!!
Certainly NOT Vt. Hinda Miller!!
Certainly NOT a qualified Genealogist!!
Certainly NOT John Scott Moody!!
Certainly NOT Kevin Dann!!
Certainly NOT anyone on the VCNAA!!

Wednesday, July 1, 2015

Nancy L. (nee: Coffin) Lecompte Communications from June 04, 2009 up to March 2015:

Jun 4, 2009 
[NOTICE that it was May 29, 2009 that I began this blog]
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Re: here is the link; have fun love ya......
Ok My Friend - Ne-Do-Ba is ready to officially weight in on this
situation, if you want it!

I think it is time for Ne-Do-Ba to make a public statement, so I have carefully put some words on paper - certainly it will stir things up and bring down some heat on us - but it's time to take a public stand.
I can't figure out how to post it as a comment on your blog - and not exactly sure where the best place would be to put it, so I will send it to you and you can do what you want with it. Perhaps you will want to make it a "guest" blog entry or something like that rather than a comment. That would be fine with me.
Perhaps a title or tag line should read "Statement by Ne-Do-Ba concerning Western Abenaki History & Genealogy" or something along that line.

Here it is
Our nonprofit organization, Ne-Do-Ba, has been quietly sitting for years in the back corner listened to and watching events unfold in Western Maine, Vermont, & New Hampshire. As an organization, we have always insisted who you are is your business and not ours - we are interested only in the ancestors and in recovering the lost history of the Wabanaki People of Interior Northeast. We do not maintain information on people born after 1890 in our genealogical database and we can not confirm or deny the claim of "Abenaki" by anyone living today.

Our research to date suggests the true Abenaki bands still in place in the Interior Northeast at the time of the Revolutionary War slowly disintegrated or merged with the Wabanaki groups that continued to maintain a land base in Maine, Quebec, and New Brunswick. By disintegrate, we mean members of those bands made individual choices rather than group choices about how to survive. Some chose to maintain their culture, some chose to accept a different culture, and some chose to adapted one to the other - but regardless of the outcome it was THEIR CHOICE and we can not change that. Some may feel that remaining Abenaki was simply not an option at various times in history, but the fact that
we still have recognized Wabanaki groups (such as Odanak, Penobscot, Maliseet, etc.) that were able to maintained land and identity demonstrates it was an option and survival was possible when that option was chosen.

Our research is always on-going and every day we make new discoveries that force us to re-evaluate previous beliefs and former conclusions. If any one can provide documentation of any kind to support the concept that any band remained intact and off-reservation in Western Maine, New Hampshire, or Vermont after 1860, we would certainly welcome hearing from you. Anecdotal information from personal family stories has value and we welcome it. However, please understand that such things are not proof unless some part of it can be substantiated by some form of documentation from the time period.

As an individual, I have always believed that we should honor all aspects of our ancestry without favoring one over another. By claiming in an obviously public way that we are Abenaki, Mi'qmaq, Irish, German or whatever, we create a responsibility to those ancestors. Before demanding that history and governments have wronged us, we must be active in discovering the real and complete story (not just our family's version). We must be willing to accept whatever we discover and willing to put it out there for others to see. I applaud Douglas for being brave enough to do this with his family history. Unless others are willing to do this, their motives and sincerity should be questioned.

I personally can not document my Native ancestry. Because of that and out of respect for those who chose throughout history to remain Abenaki (those reservation/reserve families of today), I have stopped referring to myself as "Abenaki" and simple state that I believe I am an "Abenaki descendant". I do not ask for anything from anyone based on this self-designation and I have never accepted money based on my claim to Abenaki ancestry. All moneys coming through me for Wabanaki research or programming go directly to Ne-Do-Ba to further our research. It is also
important to understand Ne-Do-Ba has never received any grants or funding earmarked for Native American minorities. We survive on volunteer hours and very meager donations from individuals.

It's one thing to declare yourself an "Abenaki descendant" and honor that ancestry by attending PowWows, supporting Native rights, learning the crafts, language, & culture, participating in ceremonies, etc., but it's quite another to declare yourself to be an "Abenaki chief", "medicine man", or "Abenaki band" and demand others to accept that without question. If you were applying to the Penobscot Nation (or any other recognized Native group) for membership, you would have to prove
your claim with copious documentation. Why should it be any different for these self-proclaimed groups? They need to back up their claims if they expect others (especially governments) to take they seriously.

I see no problem with setting up nonprofit organizations as social, genealogical, and/or historical societies with a focus on our Native heritage. These groups can provide valuable services to their members and there are several out there that do just that. But when these groups declare they are speaking for all Abenaki, demand states acknowledge them as Native Americans and provide them with special rights, or make claims about historical people or events they can not substantiate with
some form of documentation - that is, I believe, CROSSING THE LINE. I am very glad to see that someone is finally questioning the activity and claims of some people and groups in a public forum.


Please - do not think that all "Abenaki" people or all "Abenaki" organizations are acting in fraudulent or inappropriate ways. As with anything, there are some good ones and some not so good ones. Please take the time to look into the claims of people or organizations you are interested in and form your own opinion before becoming involved with them.

As I mentioned at the beginning, Ne-Do-Ba is involved with the past. This is the first and most likely the only time Ne-Do-Ba or myself  will ever make a public statement concerning a modern day issue. It is only being done because some of the people and groups in question are seriously fouling the waters with unsubstantiated claims and making our mission of rediscovering the lost Abenaki history of this region even more difficult then it already is.

Thank You for your time
Nancy Lecompte
Research Director for
Ne-Do-Ba    www.nedoba.org
A Maine Nonprofit 501(c)3 Corporation

P.S. We will respond to any constructive conversation generated by our statements. Any e-mail containing foul or derogatory language will be immediately deleted without further reading or response from Ne-Do-Ba and the e-mail address will be added to our blocked address list.









Jul 17, 2009
From: Nancy
To: Besanigw@aol.com  douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Vermont Abenaki Blog
You say his statements are "neither truthful nor accurate" but you don't explain in what way or where he is in error. Sorry, but I do not have time to review and research each detail he is writing.
Have you read the material on the page link I sent? Here it is again in case you lost it.
You certainly have the right to think and act any way you want concerning your ancestry. Ne-Do-Ba will never make any public comment for or against the ancestry claims of any specific living person.
However, once you make a public claim, I feel very strongly that you MUST to be able to document your claim in a proper way and willing to make that information public.
If Salmon has made a transcription error in the material from Gretchen, then talk to him about it in a reasonable manner - I'm sure he will correct it. If he has made an error in the genealogy that is posted - then show him where he is wrong by providing documentation and I am certain he will correct it. If newspapers have misquoted you and you have never publicly claimed to be Eastern or Western Abenaki, then in a rational conversation ask him to correct those statements.
I do not believe oral history is proof of anything unless you have a large amount of additional circumstantial evidence or actual historical documentation to demonstrate the accuracy of the story. If you do have additional evidence then make it public and I believe he will
re-evaluate his claims and correct any inaccurate statements in his blog.
Nancy Lecompte

Director for Ne-Do-Ba

Nov 25, 2009
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Happy Turkey Day
Kwai Nidoba
Hope you have someone to spend time with tomorrow - no one should have to be alone on a holiday. I know it's a whiteman day but it's also a family thing and that's important. I'm going to my sisters - she's a great cook! I should be home late afternoon tomorrow and probably all
day Friday so give me a call.

I've had more e-mail from Jeanne Lalime - Lincoln - Kent and today one from Nancy Millette Cruger Lyons Doucet - they seem to be up to something. Obviously trying to get me to drop my support and if they can't do that I think they are trying to get me to do something they can point to to discredit me. But I'm not playing the game the way they hoped and Jeanne seems to be REALLY PISSED, so guess I have struck a nerve!!!!! She says I have lost her respect - hear me crying? - Ha Ha.
I don't plan to make any more comments at all.
Take care my friend
Nancy L. Lecompte

Dec 7, 2009
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Kwai Nidoba

You've been quiet for awhile - everything going OK with you?
Interesting theory on the possible Blair/Phillips connection - have you had any luck getting more info?
I had a few minutes last week and looked to see what I had on file for the Phillips family. A little bit here and there but did not know the name of Old Antoine's wife until getting the .pdf you sent. Now armed with the identity of his wife, I realized a descendant had corresponded with me years (1998) ago! I think you may find it interesting. I am sending it on to you now because I just don't have time to get into it until after xmas.
I know some Gill and Pakikan families went up to that area from Odanak but I didn't realize there was a reserve there.
Wish I had time right now to dig into this more, but I have a big project I am working on for an xmas gift for Mom & Dad and I got keep working at it steady to get it down in time.
I would love to get copies of anything you have that is history or genealogy - for safe keeping just in case they come hunting you! Louis Annance did that with us years ago just in case he ever had a fire at the house. But seriously, not interested in copies of all the current events stuff, news articles, court docs, etc. etc. - just don't have the space or interest.
Talk to you soon

June 10, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]

June 11, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Not much I can do to help since I do not ask any questions about recent generations and I don't keep any of that kind of info on file if it is volunteered.
I can tell you that what little I have for the family came from Vera in Nov-1999 (that part has to remain confidential) and she claims the Patnaud woman (don't have that computer turned on so can't check details until next week) was the last fluent speaker of Abenaki in the family and the source of their Abenaki blood - this last part can be publically used as long as the source is not specified. You can say "undisclosed source in 1999" or something along that line.
Talk to you next week

Jun 15, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]
I do have a Patnaude family that possibly traces back to Pierre Couc and Marie Mite8ameg8k8e.
dau. Madeleine Couc b.abt. 1669 Trois Rivieres m. Maurice Menard abt. 1692 perhaps at Michillimakinac.
son Antoine Menard dit Montour dit LaFontaine b.28-Apr-1695 Michillimakinac m. 7-Jan-1723 at Boucherville to Marie Huart/Huard
dau. Marie Charlotte b.abt. 1724 m. (as her 2nd husband) Francois Patnaude 20-May-1765 Chambly PQ. Her 1st husband was J.B. Lefort by which she had at least 9 children (most in the 1740's and early 1750s). Francois Patnaude b.abt. 1734 PQ, parents not on file here.

Aug 11, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]
Subject: Just in case you don't already have enough reading material ;)


Let me know if the link doesn't work for you.
I will leave it up for a few days and you are welcome to give the link to anyone who might have an interest in it. If they want it they will have to save it to their own machine because I will delete it sometime next week.

Aug 20, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Just keep on working it my Friend ;)
Just in case you get bored with that - here is the .doc file of Fred's paper. You should be able to cut and paste it into your blog.
And here is a link to a Canadian genealogy site I just heard about


I just tried to visit it, but the page would not load - so maybe it is not such a good organization or perhaps they are doing maintenance today. May be worth checking on later.

Oct 21, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]
THEY ARE COWARDS - MAGOAK [Jeanne (nee: Lalime) Lincoln - Kent's website]
Posted on July 13, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Dec 30, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]
Subject: Visited the blog and saw a new post, so I guess you are still among the living.

I am looking for your opinion. Getting closer to setting up my blog, but still don't have a name for it. I have a few ideas, but still looking for other ideas or help to decide which is most appropriate. Am also including some of the narrative for the blog description so you can see where I intend to go with this blog. I will be out most of the afternoon, but give me a call later if you get a chance.
Wabanaki Genealogy Research Blog
Exploring Wabanaki Ancestry
Wampum Record
Finding the Grandmothers
Seeking the Truth

GWILOSKOBA - an explorer, person who searches for information
MASKAWOMEK - one finds someone
NEGONZOSAK - old people, ancestors
OLOMASI - be truthful, right, correct
WALILAK - that which is the very truth, it is the very truth
GAHALAKI - it's true, it's a fact
ONKAWI - connecting, linking, strung out like beads
WANTASTIGAN - a thing put away which can not be found, a lost object

(sorry I don't have the proper accenting on the Abenaki words - they are all from Day's dictionary)
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I will filter and remove postings making false claims. This is only to prevent the blog from being used by certain people trying to promote their own agenda by spreading unsubstantiated historical or genealogical information - an activity that is unfortunately running rampant in the Northeast at this time.
Oral family history will certainly be allowed for any of the families being studied but may be removed for other families, especially if it appears to be untruthful, outrageous, or previously demonstrated to be false. Again, this is to prevent the blog from being used to further those political agendas just mentioned.
There are those in N'dakina who will claim this blog is biased against them and only promoting our own agenda. They are correct - our agenda is to promote responsible, intelligent, documented research and present our findings publicly. I am making this clear now so there is no question
about it - any person not on-board with our agenda will be discriminated against in all respects. If you are uncomfortable with that, please go somewhere else.
There are folks who will claim our policy is intended to cover-up or hide the truth concerning their families. They will be dead wrong.
First, I will let my regular visitors be the best judge of my actions. Second, provide appropriate historical documentation to demonstrate we are hiding something and we will explore it in public on this blog. My readers can then form their own conclusions. If you are uncomfortable with that, please go somewhere else.
Ne-Do-Ba has always had a strict privacy policy - we do not make comments about the ancestry of living people and we do not keep records for people born after 1900. However, since we are now being attack on a regular basis by people making false claims about their ancestry, we have loosened our policy as it relates to this blog, but only this blog.
Your privacy is still strictly protected by Ne-Do-Ba everywhere else except on this blog.
You have a right to dislike me and my organization, but you do not have a right to make false claims about us or violate our legal rights.
So with that said, please note - I reserve the right to use this blog to document the actual ancestry of anyone found making false statements about this blog or our organization, or violating our copyright in other forums, both on and off line.

Dec 30, 2010
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
GWILOSKOBA - well that was my first choice too.
But then I pretty much decided on "AWIGHOZO - it is written" which is very simple and straight forward - a blog (which is writing) about discovering and interpreting historical documents (things that are written).
But I also like "ONKAWIWI - connected linearly in time" because I love to create timelines for families and also the genealogy thing is about connecting people today with people of the past.
I was just about to sign up for the blog and give it a name when I got your vote - now I think I should sleep on it. If you have any more thoughts, I would love to hear them.
We will see what tomorrow brings ;)

Jan 9, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
"scholars reports" to commission and "commission" minutes should be public record - perhaps you should get and post them to show the process for what it is - fixed by those in control! If such things don't exist or are claimed to be confidential then that should also be addressed in public.
I for one would love to see detailed report of how the scholars came to their conclusions - seems this should be a matter of record. If it is not or there is no detail only rhetoric, then someone should make that fact public.

Jan 12, 2011
From: Nancy
To: Salmon
Subject: Have you visited this site yet


- the meeting minutes are posted.

Did you know the VT General Assembly must accept or deny the recommendations within 24 months or they automatically GET RECOGNIZED !!!!
So if they create some sort of snafu that holds up legislative action long enough - it becomes automatic - how can that be right? But then, none of this has ever been right.

Jan 14, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Perhaps you should check to see if they were actually stupid enough to do this.

Eastern Woodland
"A copy of said records will be filed and maintained for permanent record with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon), Salt Lake City, Utah, and the Thetford Historical Society of the Town of Thetford (if said historical society so agrees). These records will be utilized as the "Mormon" Church or the Thetford Historical Society see fit with the understanding that these records entrusted to their care are of a  permanent nature and as such they are a gift to them, by the North eastern Woodlands Band of the Abenaki Nation of Vermont, for the purpose of research and documentation of persons of American Indian lineage."

Jan 20, 2011
Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
I am so proud of you my friend - this is the best thing I have even seen you write! Straight to the point with no rhetoric or personal bias showing. This is something that people should pay attention too (I hope).
I do hope you are posting it on your own blog.

Jan 22, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
I just don't understand how Frederick M. Wiseman has gone so far without anyone (besides us!) questioning him.
Unless his PHD was purchased on the internet, he had to have known how to do proper research at one time. But the only thing I have ever seen produced by him was pure crap and certainly not something I would be proud to show the public. And this whole thing of making up the rules
himself as he goes along - it's about time someone found a way to stop him. He is teaching this research style to modern day students! I wonder if there is any way to get him in trouble with his current employer. Perhaps something like this "band / wiki" thing could be formally complained about? Maybe something for you to look into.
You mentioned going on a research trip with Skip. If you do and if you have time - try to get the Alburg history pages (actual town register would be better, but I'll settle for the published version) that mention all the civil war soldiers that served for the town. If you get me the names of all of them, I will put in the time to compare the town's record to a list of actual enlistments for the town at Ancestry.com to see if we can resolve the "4 indians" question once and for all. I certainly would like to know myself who they were. They deserved to be properly recognized for their service.

Apr 27, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Be careful my friend! It sounds like you are jumping to conclusions here. You refer to a "typed document" but that is not what is involved here. That is a transcript of the town record found in a PUBLISHED town history. Fred did not concoct this transcribed document, they are only using it to their advantage.
However, we do need to find out more about this published history. I think it is a recent (last 20 to 30 years) work so there is the possibility the author was manipulated in some way or influenced by someone in Homer's club. But you can't accuse them of that without good sound proof - not just speculation.
The real issue you should address is why didn't any of the scholars who were supposed to be reviewing the accuracy of the applications take the time to locate the original document and verify the information. Why? Because they are not good scholars! They did not do the job that was assigned to them. If they didn't do it in this case, why should we trust they ever did it for any of the data.
And of course there is the issue of why no one (Fred, John Moody, etc.) ever retrieved the original document in the first place - because it didn't support the published version and their agenda. To prove they are liars you would need to prove they knew what the original said. Can we prove any one of them ever viewed the original? Probably not, so don't go calling them a liar etc. because that won't get you anywhere.
Am attaching a better copy of the town's original and attaching the RM4 file to a 2nd e-mail. Have fun!

Apr 27, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
This is my research file on the Alburgh men. It includes all those that are possible candidates and what I have discovered so far. I make use of several special features of RM4.
Any fact in red is something I found concerning the name but could not prove actually is the man in question. Some are disproved but I leave them in so I can see I already found and disproved it.
I make extensive use of NOTES - take the time to read them!!!!
I copy and paste actual data found online into the notes section of my sources - take the time to read them!

May 2, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon

May 2, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon

May 11, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon

My blog is listed right along with some of the best known in the whole blogsphere ! I am really honored.

May 27, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Re: Just a little bit of interesting details regarding Against the Darkness Video review......

On 5/26/2011 7:16 PM, Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote: NOW WHO SCRATCHED OUT "NICHOLAS" from the RPPC (Real Photographic PostCard Glass Negative etc? I think it was Frederick Matthew Wiseman himself who did the redacting!

Just my opinion my friend.

May 31, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Just got home from camp and checked the mail box. I have the David Loran
pension file !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried to wait until I was unpacked, showered, etc. but that didn't happen.
I guessed right - Alburgh's "Four Indians" were indeed Mohawk men from St. Regis/Hogansburgh.
David Loran is Mohawk
George Squires and Joseph Bero also - they both provide depositions.
George was Tent mate of David. Joseph served with David 6 months in the 98th NY and it certainly does appear they were discharged from that regiment because they were "St. Regis Indians" per Sec. of War. Joseph Bero does not mention serving with David Loran during the Sharpshooter
enlistments, only the earlier 6 month service.
So, 2 of the 3 candidates I picked are now confirmed/documented Indians of the Mohawk Nation.
This is a good day for the Vermont Abenaki deniers!
No mention of Laflin, but he died in service so it would be tuff for him to testify ;)
Names and dates for all his kids and marriage to Sarah, date of death, her family name, both their "Mohawk" names, etc..
Will talk with you later - call at 6 if you get a chance.
Will make a copy of the DVD file for you and another for St. Regis. and try to get them mailed out before the end of the week. Do you have an address for the woman at St. Regis you have been talking with? Are there any other places that deserve a free copy of the file? Maybe one to the Alburgh Historical Society?

Jul 8, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
I did not see anything about this in the local papers. It seems to have been kept pretty hush hush. An acquaintance just sent me the link to the article.
I told you - what is happening in Vermont will never happen here. The real tribes here have learned how to use political power!

Jul 9, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Thanks for the PDF.
I have this in printed form. Louis Annance donated it to Ne-Do-Ba a number of years ago. It is an interesting theory and I agree with some aspects of it totally. However, I do question some of the data he uses and some of his interpretations of it! Still, much better work than anything I have seen from Wiseman!!!

Jul 26, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
I also discovered some material I had on Medor/Swanton Connection which I want you to have. PLEASE - I do not have permission to share this so you can not ever post on the blog or share with anyone else!

the "Medard Cajiais" referred to near the end [reference to our web page for the Cajiais page -NL] was the Medor Cayie/Peter Medor that was my mother-in-law's great grandfather. In the process of researching her family history for her I found that he traveled quite a distance from the Swanton region getting as far south as southern New Hampshire, almost into Massachusetts. In 1850 he is back in Swanton (dwelling 22) under the name Mador Pascnar (you need to compare the rest of the family members to prove it is he). By 1860 he has gone south to Milford NH (dwelling 582) using the name Peter Medor and by correlating the census with a map from that same time it is probable he was living in the mill owned housing of the Souhegan Cotton Mill. By 1870 he is back north in Swanton VT (dwelling 358). His death is recorded 25th July 1890 in Swanton under the name Medor Cayie. In a scrap note attributed to his youngest daughter, Matilda, she spells the name as Cahah=B4 with an
accent after the last letter, although I generally do not get too concerned with spelling variants.

[In respond to my direct questions ">" I got the following -NL]

>born about 1835. With this in mind, I don't believe he is the same
person as your Medor age 40 in the 1850 census.

I agree - the one I tracked out of Swanton was born considerably earlier. I had no information on the 'age' of the one in your database and was considering only the name similarity. For the one I'm concerned with, his grave marker in St. Mary's claims he was born 3-MAY-1814 but I distrust that as it fails to match up with any of the census data or his death record which suggests 1803 or there abouts.

My data is primarily from Swanton vital records and census data.

1. "...leads you to believe the original family name was Cajiais?"
Only circumstantial regarding the actual name. Handwritten note by his daughter, Matilda, used the spelling "Cahah'". His death record in Swanton Town records referring to him as "Medor Cayie". (Before 1900 I rely on phonetics more than spelling.)

2. "Was he from St. Regis or Odanak?"
I suspect St. Regis as his son's death record (Peter Medor who died 28-Jun-1908) refers to "St. Richard" as being both the son's and the father's birth place. I suspect "St. Richard" is a town clerk's 
'mangling' of "St. Regis". Other records only specify Canada.

3. "Do you know who Medor's parents where or anything about his siblings?"
Nothing on siblings. His father is stated as Medor CAYIE on his own death record in Swanton Town records (25-Jul-1890). i.e. Father and son were recorded as having the same name. That may be significant or no more than another Town Clerk foible. Its not enough for me to want to rely on it.

4. Have you determined who his spouse was?"
I believe his wife to be Marguerite Julia. Surname uncertain but probably St. PIERRE.

-----Peter and his wife seem to have variously mis-spelled names.
Patri Medor & Julia Sanspite <- i="" in="" marriage="" mary="" matilda="" of="" s="" st.="">
Peter Mador & Julia Sampea <- i="" in="" marriage="" matilda="" of="" record="" town="">
Peter Medor & Maggie Sangprique <- death="" edward="" i="" of="" son="">
Petri Medor and Margarita Petit <- 1st="" edward="" i="" marriage="" of="">
Peter Medor <- 2nd="" edward="" i="" marriage="" of="">
Peter Medor & Margarite St.Pierre <- i="" marriage="" of="" son="">
Peter Medor Cayie <- death="" his="" i="" record="" swanton="" town="">
Peter C. Medor & Marguerite S. <- cemetery="" i="" mary="" s="" st.="">

From census records come:
Swanton 1850, dwelling 22; Mador Pascnar age 40 & Julia age 35. Also in household children Peter, Louisa, Julia Edmond & Alonzo.

Milford NH 1860, dwelling 582: Peter Medor age 60 & Julia age 53. Also in household children Edward and Matilda.

Swanton 1870, dwelling 358: living with son Edward: Peter age 59 & Julia age 55 [Medor]

His age on death record is "87" implying birth about 1803. This approximates the data in the 1850 and 1870 census. I have no useful comment regarding why the age is off in 1860 except that its a 
multi-family mill dwelling and census data may have been supplied by some sort of house keeper or care taker on behalf of all residents.

From grandchildren records at St. Mary's it seems that church favored the family names of "Cahier" and "Medard".

Other than a 'hand me down' statement attributed to Matilda MEDOR that she was Abenaki, I have no evidence one way or another regarding proof of that assertion.
Have Fun

Aug 8, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: "chief Joe of the St francise tribe"
The man is Joseph Nicola of the Penobscot. Never a chief to my knowledge but he did serve as a State Representative for the Penobscot.
So if she thinks they are related lets see the genealogy!
Oh, but wait - that would make her Penobscot, not St. Francis, and not Mississquoi
Like to see her get into the Penobscot tribe without showing her genealogy.

Aug 11, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: St. Regis Squires curiosity
I was just (finally) reviewing an Ancestry tree link you sent a few weeks back for Joseph Bero.

In looking at his wife's parents I have this feeling we may have stumbled onto something else of value.

The mother's name is given as Marie Ann "Kanenstenhawi"

When I sounded out her Iroquois name I noticed how much it sounds like KANISTANAUX

Which is the name used by the family in Stockton, NY that probably has ties to Metallic here in Maine & NH.

Sep 1, 2011
From: Nancy
To: Salmon
Subject: Annance thoughts
Here is an idea for you to chew on a bit.

Perhaps the Annance family does needs to be discussed in detail on your blog for one important reason.

This is an off Reservation family living in the mist of non-Native people for more than a century - first at Rangeley (Annance & Wasamimet), then at Lancaster (only Annance?), and finally at Greenville (Annance, Capino, Toma, Perley, etc.). In all of those locations they are clearly identified as NATIVE. Why? Because they were. Because they maintained their culture. Because where ever they lived they created mini-communities that were seen as Native communities or neighborhoods
by outsiders and written about by those outsiders in a wide variety of documents.
This Annance family clearly demonstrates exactly what you have been claiming all along. Native families do not live in a vacuum and if they are maintaining their culture the neighbors will take notice and leave records for later researchers to find. The same is true for the Jacksons, Capinos, Watsos, Mitchells, Lagraves, etc.. They all left the reservation, but maintained their culture enough so that their neighbors clearly knew who they were. In their everyday life they probably went
about their business in the same manner as their non-Native neighbors. None of them had to go around dressed as Indians and living in wigwams for their neighbors to understand exactly who they were. Native is what they were and the neighbors had no problem seeing that.

Unlike all these others claiming to be hiding during this very same time period. If they were hiding from their neighbors, they really could not have had any community. At least some of them would have had obvious Native features, enough so that neighbors would have labeled their families and neighborhoods as "Indian". Somewhere, someone would have labeled them in diaries, shop account books, pauper records, land deeds, court records, etc.. So where is this documentation? Except for a couple ambiguous statements in the 20th Century eugenics records (and that Alburg Indians crap!), not a single item has been brought forward by these folks to show anyone ever saw them as Indian until after 1970's.
Court records for the 1800's could be a real treasure trove of data on these families, but I doubt anyone has ever attempted to search local court records.
These groups have not demonstrated any practical reason for a need to hide back in the 1800s (long before their favorite eugenics excuse even existed).
Also, their petitions show absolutely no connections between the families they descend from that were "hiding" and the families that were not hiding, such as the Obomsawins, Jacksons, Annances, etc. that have descendants on these membership rolls.
Important steps in proving a theory is to show why it is a logical conclusion after looking at all the available information, to identify all other possibilities, and demonstrate why these other possibilities are illogical as they pertain to the theory. None of the theories they present in their petitions are ever properly argued because they never mention other possibilities and hence they never show why these
possibilites should be discounted.
Anyway, just some thoughts running through my head last night.
Heading up to camp tomorrow morning and probably staying until Tuesday if the weather is favorable.

Sep 15, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: lets try that again
Attachment: September 29, 1994 Newspaper article from the Sun Journal - Lewiston, Maine regarding Louis Annance, President of the Dawnland Alliance, Incorporated.

Sep 15, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Emailing: Image (2).jpg
Newspaper article image of Louis Paul Annance.

Sep 16, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Re: Here is my work up and it is pretty much as complete as I want to get it.
I read the blog - pretty darn good - I'm proud of you.

Oct 5, 2011
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Wiseman's unwise words
Attached is a pdf of Wiseman's "Chief" defense marked up with my comments. I am using a new piece of software (trial version), so if this file doesn't open or is illegible let me know.


Dec 16, 2011
To: Salmon
Subject: a little xmas gift for you
Feel free to use on the blog, just don't say it came from me!

Dec 22, 2011
From: Nancy  
To: Salmon
This arrived in my "Bruce" mailbox. Thought it might get your blood pressure up. I thought she said something about not being a part of the Vermont issue or not eligible because she didn't live in Vermont?

If you ever use this online - you need to DELETE to address, so she doesn't banish me from her mailing list.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Enrollment
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:10:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Fine Gourd Art by...Morningstar
Reply-To: Fine Gourd Art by...Morningstar
To: mystuffbp@roadrunner.com

Kwai, Nidobak
Happy Holidays to all my members. I want to thank you for your support as we enter a new year and hope you will continue to follow my work as it changes and progresses.
I am ending this year on a very happy note. The Abenaki Nation has struggled for years to become recognized and this year two Bands (Nulhegan and Elnu) were given state recognition by the State of
Vermont. Last Saturday I received notice that I was accepted for enrollment in the Nulhegan Band, Coosuk-Abenaki of Vermont. At last I can participate fully in my culture and with my extended family. It has been my dream that when I cross over, I will have my moccasins on and
now, I most certainly will!

Jan 6, 2012
Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: A friend of ours?
Just signing off for the evening when I came across this - and Bruce just couldn't resist - he is soo bad.
About 1/2 way down the page -

Kelley Folsom
December 21, 2011 at 4:09 pm

Jan 8, 2012
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: the styles tree
Here is a ged for that Carruth/Styles family. This idiot is convinced both his grandparents are Indians!
Attachment: styles.ged

Jun 26, 2012
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: DNA & genealogy
Thought you might enjoy.
Excellent overview of how to use dna and genealogy to find the Native connection.

Jul 30, 2012
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Interesting paragraph about mid page discussing historians and assumptions - they could be talking about Wiseman, Moody, etc.


Jul 31, 2012
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Re: Fw: clan of the hawk . abenaki fashion
Ya that's a good one.

1. lady in the picture is not wearing this hat
2. this hat is not from the early 1800s

They just keep weaving their own fantasy bigger and bigger. And the
public just eats it up.

Not much to do except keep posting on the idiocy of these specific claims. Some day these fantasy stories may come back to bit them in the ass, but I am not holding my breath because the public has already accepted their crap and obviously clamoring for more.

Now, if some descendant would write to me and ask my opinion of this hat story it would provide me with justification to tear the story to bits --- publicly.

Did you see the story about Virginia trying to bypass BIA and go straight to US Congress for Federal recognition of 4 State tribes? If they are legit, more power to them, but I fear they may be just culture
clubs trying to get rich with casinos. Would love to read their original BIA applications and the BIA opinions.

Sep 12, 2012
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Fwd: So – Why Not Kill the Messenger?
Thought you might enjoy reading this article.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: So – Why Not Kill the Messenger?
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:28:53 -0400
To: Nan
So – Why Not Kill the Messenger?


The Elizabeth Warren Cherokee ancestry controversy continues – and I’m betting it will right up to election day.

Oct 10, 2012
From: Nancy
To: Salmon
Subject: Bruchac dissertation
This copy is digitally registered to me and is copyright by Marge and by ProQuest.

You CAN NOT Share this with anyone (not even Skip) and you can not use it on your blog because it will get me in trouble. However, you can quote a paragraph here and there without any problem.

I think you will love the introduction. She is lying through her teeth and using it to put herself in a position of authority to speak for Native People.

[Nancy L. Lecompte is herself ... doing EXACTLY what she condemns!]

Feb 5, 2013
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Re: Regarding Belmont Newell's father.... from Joyce Sundheim. This MAY BE something new....
On 2/4/2013 9:56 PM, Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote:
He always claimed to be Penobscot or Kiowa but I am now believing that his inheritance was from England and that his father may have traveled with a John Johnson family here in the U.S. thus learning about remedies from him ..... I noticed that he was not on the census of Old Town - I think it was 1859 or 1860 because he was an infant.

It appears she has never actually read John Johnson's story! It is clear from his story, he learned the trade from the Newell's, not the other way around. He was just a young man and they were already veterans of the road when he joined up with them.

He is not on the 1860 census because there is no such census for Penobscot that year! Belmont is not on the 1858 School census because he was not born yet, but his parents and older sister are on that census.

For some reason this woman does not want to be a Penobscot Indian! She is just making things up to fit the truth she wants. No sense trying to convince her otherwise. Such a shame she and her brother are not interested in the truth only in perpetuating their own fantasy. You would think the two of them would at least have the same fantasy, but no. Well, maybe yes - Louis doesn't want to be a Penobscot either, he wants to be Kiowa!

Feb 8, 2013
From: Nancy
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Re: Found something, you might have already seen this though.... hugs
Nice find!
Doesn't seem like Thomas Sr. b. about 1792 would be called an old man in 1832 at the age of 40. Perhaps this is the father - or perhaps totally unrelated!!!
Makes me wonder if the tribal genealogist is jumping to conclusions based solely on the very common name of Newell !!!
Who ever this guy is, he seems to have really pissed off a couple of Penobscot. The last war [1812] has been over for almost two decades but they can't let it go. I wonder if Newell is cutting into their craft sales or something?
And another Newell Lyon. I have 2 of this name on file born 1844 & 1893 so clearly not this guy.
Lots of Noel/Newell/Nuel in Maliseet church records but no Thomas baptized in the right time period and no marriages to a Mary Anne or to any Tomah women. But of course we are thinking of Newell as a family name when it may not be one at this early time period.
P.S. I forwarded the fake tribe thing to the Penobscot. Don't expect to hear anything back, but they have been put on notice.

Apr 10, 2013
From: Nancy
To: Salmon
Subject: Twisted history according to a priest
The first two posts on this message board thread are pretty informative, the rest is how everyone has decided to believe a priest rather than look things up for themselves. Just goes to show that even priests "want what they want" and are willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want. The hell with the truth, it just gets in the way!

http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx mv=flat&m=2631&p=topics.ethnic.natam.nations.metis.metisgen 

Apr 10, 2013
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: This descendant of "Ots-Toch" might interest you
This very prominent person in the genealogy world claims descent from "Ots-Toch" which I think is a person you did some work on / in the Bruchac family. She makes the claim in the 2nd paragraph of this blog post. Are there valid descendants of this woman or is this "professional genealogist" blowing smoke?


Jun 25, 2013
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Partlow question
I just gave your e-mail address to a woman researching her husband's Partlow line.
She saw my Alburg Indian articles. She is confused because the family says Indian but her research says English. It seems like she wants to learn the truth, whatever it is. I don't know if she will contact you are not, but I have not actually researched the family and I know you have, so maybe you can be of some help to her.
OR maybe she works for Mr. Dumbman [Fred M. Wiseman] and is trying to get me to say something they can use against me.

Nov 24, 2013
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Good to know this - I was planning on doing the National Geno test for myself because I thought it would be fun and get me a personal and useful FTDNA account. Looks like it would have been a waste of my money.

Feb 9, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Another "tribe" gets rejected
Didn't read the whole response, but certainly looks like another group of wannabees!

Mar 7, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Chris Roy's Dissertation

Jun 15, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: DNA
Just read your post from a couple weeks back on Roberta's DNA blog.
Very nice job. Well expressed without getting personal.
I was disappointed she did not respond to your second comment and I thought her response to the first one was a bit flippant.

Sep 2, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Abenaki Prayer ???
Do you know anything about the possible origins of this prayer? Ne-Do-Ba
was asked to "interpret and verbally speak" this prayer by someone with
the probably last name of Galen.

Like I know the language and can speak it - Ha ha ha.
Anyway, thought I would pass it on in case it was created by one of our Wannabiak friends.

Sep 3, 2014
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Re: Abenaki Prayer ???
Just heard more about this prayer - Ha Ha Ha
Galen states: "The Prayer is attributed to Chief Edwin “Joe” Pero, Coos (Cowasuck-Koasek) Deer Clan"

Sep 5, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Phillips
I took a look at those Phillips church records. Something is not right, but I can't figure it out. I sent the records on to my official French translator to see if there is key data in the records that we are
missing. May take a few days.
I never saw the census records before. "Black" humm! Seems like the church records would make some kind of mention of this, but maybe not.
The kids in the 1850 census don't match up too well with the kids from the church records. And what's up with Antoine's age. The death record may not be the same man as the 1850 Census - there is a huge difference in birth years between the two! If census age is correct for Catherine,
then she was fourteen when Antoine Jr was born and Peter is certainly not her son, because she was only 9 when he was born.
It doesn't make sense that Antoine Jr. was illegitimate and 3 years later Mathias is not, but there is no marriage record for the parents in this parish. Even once they are from the US, there are still going back to this specific parish to baptize their children. Also why don't we have baptisms all of the 1850 kids?
I noticed the Codere name among the godparents in these baptisms. These are very likely Catherine's siblings. Have you had any luck putting her family together.
I home all afternoon and will be available for a while after supper (company coming at about 7).

Sep 25, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Here is a Phillips tree I just stumbled upon at ancestry. Perhaps you have seen it. Ties all the Phillips to the Kanistanaux family and Metallic. Must be from one of our "friends" in Vermont, so I thought you should see it.

Nov 6, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Re: Fw: the info on Mattaluc

Nov 19, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte

To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
Subject: Wabanaki Project


Nov 27, 2014
From: Nancy Lecompte

To: Salmon
Subject: DNA [Wabanaki Project that she, alone, 'cooked' up]
I am sorry I put you in the middle and messed things up for your project.
I have decided I do not have the time and skills to do this right so am taking steps to shut down the project today.
I have written to Ms. _________ and asked that she not hold you accountable for my incompetence.

Nancy Lecompte

[This is WHERE and WHEN Nancy Lecompte VIOLATED MY TRUST and friendship with Nancy Lecompte]

Jan 30, 2015
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: this is just too funny
Here is a link to the tintype and "documentation" I mentioned today.
The note says she is "1/4 Indian". Funny thing - if you follow the links on this page to her mother and her grandparents - no one else is an Indian! I followed her father in public records and guess what - he ain't an Indian either. So does being "Indian" jump over a generation or two ???

Mar 6, 2015
From: Nancy Lecompte
To: Salmon
Subject: Eugenics question
Could you please check with Judy Dow to see if the surname Marden or Mardin appears in the eugenics files?

Nancy Lecompte

[And this is WHEN she 'set me up' yet a second time, and then decided to try and vilify me, simply because I confronted Nicole Marden with her lies and distortions; Nancy had told me about Ms. Marden's communications with her recently, and so when Stephanie Nicole Marden began to BS in her attacks against this blog, well I just told Ms. Marden that I already KNEW Ms. Marden had gone to the 4 groups in VT, and had gone to Nancy Lecompte and the latter's Ne-Do-Ba organization sniffing around etc., and I KNEW Nancy Lecompte was 'in on what Nicole was doing' in regards to her attacks on me and this blog.]

Suffice it to say, that after this malicious 'knife sharpening' against my person by Nancy L. Lecompte, and I have posted previously in detail about this 'situation' between Nicole Marden, Nancy Lecompte, and myself retrospectively in this blog, I have not communicated with Nancy Lecompte NOR her organization Ne-Do-Ba, Inc.'d since March 2015. I have found Nancy Lecompte to be hostile, irrational and vindictive. 

Nancy Lecompte was PERFECTLY FINE when I was researching and exposing documentation from the 4 groups of Wannabiak over in VT, or incorporates in MA and NH, but she was manipulative, hostile and now vindictive when it comes round to her own persona and incorporated organization.

I have received one email from her claiming I have infringed on her 'copyright' by posting a photograph of her in Hannah Susep persona / clothing, of which she herself wrote on the back of it, "To my friend Salmon, Wlipamkini, Canyon Wolf" when she mailed me her book, entitled 

It's interesting how a person claims to be a "friend" and yet they place TERMS AND UNREASONABLE CONDITIONS on that "friendship". 

Nancy Lecompte didn't want me to post ANYTHING about Ne-Do-Ba, Inc.'d or use her name or mention either, nor about the Dawnland, Incorporation or about Louis Paul Annance.


As I have shown Nancy Lecompte had been allegedly 'working with me' ... we were both sharing and having conversations both by email and over the telephone. Suddenly in November 2014, Nancy Lecompte's EGO got the better of her, and she attempted to sabotage my research endeavor regarding the Antoine Phillips family claims and assertions and the atDNA evaluation I was attempting to do between Metallic and Phillips. Especially in regards to the claims that were made as part of the State Record when the groups went for Colonizer State of Vermont "Recognition" made by Donald Warren Stevens, Jr. and Professor Wiseman, then of Johnson State College. We NOW know that the VCNAA, the State of Vermont, nor the 4 groups claiming to be "Tribes" of "Abenakis" did not validate or ensure the accuracy of ANY of the claims and assertions put forward. The "scholarly data" was indeed factually manipulated, distorted and lied about, by many people. NO ONE bothered to ensure the accuracy or truthfulness of the claims and assertions being made whatsoever. Certainly not Senators Vincent Illuzzi, Kesha Ram, or Hinda Miller to name just a few involved.

WHO is Nancy Lecompte really working for, AND advocating for?  

I retrospectively back in March 2015 posted a URL to a PDF of Dawnland Newsletters, she herself (in part) sent to me. There is no copyright on them. She has provided no evidence whatsoever that they were copyrighted, let alone that photograph she'd give me some while ago. But she can NOW make a DMCA Complaint against portions of this blog, regarding her and or her involvement with Dawnland Inc. pertaining to some of the Newsletters? 

WHAT & why IS Nancy Lecompte SO CONCERNED about? She wants to NOW 'kill the messenger'? 

WHY? Because the research is about her and the claims and assertions she's made over the years, or about her organization Ne-Do-Ba, Inc.'d.

You will 'see' and review as I have, WHY Nancy Lecompte has begun to nit pick TRYING to prevent her name and or organization's documentation on here, from being evaluated by anyone. Ne-Do-Ba, Inc. nor herself are 'above' evaluation when it comes to the Re-Invention of the VT, NH "Abenakis" or their allies!

Next, I will show the other data chronologically transcribed, regarding Nancy L. Lecompte. She's had for a long time, had a 'vested interest' in claiming that she herself was ABENAKI or an 'ABENAKI DESCENDANT'. 

Obviously, doing this research, knowing what I know now, Nancy Lecompte nor her organization could no longer be involved with this research evaluation or my person, because obviously she 'claimed to be Abenaki" and garnered her 'status' from her organization and involvement with Dawnland, Inc. led by Louis Paul Annance there in Maine. 

Now she clearly doesn't want those claims and assertions known or evaluated, and we do wonder why not? 

Thanks to Ne-Do-Ba's Director and owner Nancy Lecompte ALL URL addresses to data which has been stored at Dropbox.com per my acct. and used by this blog, are no longer usable by viewers and people who study the contents of this blog, and in particular of those DawnLand Newsletters. Hopefully this is a temporary 'situation'. 

The DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) has been in fact used to invade the privacy of Internet users, harass Internet service providers, and chill online speech, such as what is on this blog, in order stop the exposure of these non-profit organizations historical documents from being view-able online
Newsletters from the Dawnland Alliance are in fact, in the public domain, and Lecompte doesn't wan them to be reviewed. Why?
The subpoena and take down powers of Section 512 are not limited to cases of proven copyright infringement, and are exercised without a judge's review. 

Please contact me by email (provide an email address) to obtain the DawnLand Newsletters. Or anything else on this blog. Love to share it ... 

Nancy Lecompte SAYS the Newsletters she sent to me are copyrighted. I also obtained some through another agency, as PUBLIC INFORMATION. I did not scan them all and put them into PDF format onto this blog.

The doctrine of "fair use" (17 United States Code, Section 107) which permits certain limited copying of copyrighted works for educational or research purposes without the permission of the copyright owner

Favoring Fair Use

Teaching ... is this not what this blog is doing?
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News Reporting ... is this not what this blog is doing?
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Factual or nonfiction based ... is this not what this blog is doing?
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Small quantity ... is this not what this blog is doing?
Portion used is not central or significant to the entire work ... is this not what this blog is doing?
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User owns or lawfully purchased or acquired copy of original work ... did I not SHOW that I acquired the copies of the Dawnland Newsletters from Nancy Lecompte herself on October 1, 2014?

One or fewer copies made ... I did in fact, scan the work, turned it into a PDF and URL shared that on this blog.

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