As follows are the varied EMAIL communications from Raymond Lussier, (former "Tribal Judge of the Koasek") (of Tynborough, Middlesex County, Massachusetts) to my person, Douglas Lloyd Buchholz (of Lancaster, Coos County, New Hampshire); Mr. Lussier is now member of the Nulhegan-Coosuk group led by Donald Warren Stevens Jr. (former led by Luke Andrew Willard).
I am NOT speaking of Raymond Paul "Looking Glass" Lussier then of Attleboro, Massachusetts.
I hope these communications will alert the readers of this blog (etc) as to this particular player and actor, in his role as a descendant of Catherine Pillard, an alleged Huron woman: She was a 'fille du roi' turned ‘Algonquin-Siberian’ by Raymond Lussier, Suzette LeClair and her daughter, Johanne Robitaille. Catherine Pillard is mentioned by Professor Darryl Leroux who studying and researching the race-shifting dynamics in both Canada, as well as here in the United States, and even Europe, etc.
August 12, 2004
I am NOT speaking of Raymond Paul "Looking Glass" Lussier then of Attleboro, Massachusetts.
I hope these communications will alert the readers of this blog (etc) as to this particular player and actor, in his role as a descendant of Catherine Pillard, an alleged Huron woman: She was a 'fille du roi' turned ‘Algonquin-Siberian’ by Raymond Lussier, Suzette LeClair and her daughter, Johanne Robitaille. Catherine Pillard is mentioned by Professor Darryl Leroux who studying and researching the race-shifting dynamics in both Canada, as well as here in the United States, and even Europe, etc.
August 12, 2004
From: DrRaymondL@aol.com
Subject: Tribal Judge and member of the Koasek of the Koas Traditional Band led by Nancy (Millette) Doucet
Kwai Norm Leveillee;
Please post this in the Guestbook section of Roots.
I want to extend my most sincere public thanks to you Norm L.
For Everyone;
Norm Leveillee was completely selfless in in his translation of a portion of my family's Metis history into French. He accurately translated our origins in the natives of old Acadie, ultimately meeting their destiny in the area of Lac Temiscouata, l'Isle Verte and Cacouna following their forceful removal from their traditional homelands circa 1755.
Norm Leveillee was the single medium between me and his cousin M. Pierre Montour Directeur de la Corporation. I am extremely grateful to Norm for his unquestioning kindness and support. May I suggest that perhaps his exceptional kindness is attributable to his Patron Saint?
May you live long and well Norm!
Adio
Ray Lussier
September 20, 2006
Carollee Reynolds (carollee57us@yahoo.com) emails Salmon [Douglas Lloyd Buchholz]
Dear Salmon,
Just a quick note my computer kept crashing last night and I read all the emails. I have a lot of the same issues but I have a certain purpose in mind. When I first joined the Koasek “Band” she [Nancy Millette – Lyons] was “chief” for only 2 years. 23 members are online and there are over 600 members and I said the same thing. Almost all these people are from Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. Most of them are related through Marie Mitegoukewe [Weskarini Algonquin Indian woman of lower Ottawa River area].
But I am not getting married to them. They are not my band and if April (nee: St. Francis) – Merrill, “Chief” of the Missisquoi group in Swanton, Vermont lets me in I will go back. T K [Carollee Reynolds daughter Takara Matthews] isn’t going to go back.
After awhile Nancy is going to see where all these programs are going, big plans but no people to work them.
Oh well take care, got to go to work.
Carollee
I was offered a “guest membership” so my daughter [Takara Matthews] and her family could do some good, like teach dance and market her stuff.
July 21, 2008
WHITE PINE ASSOCIATE FOCUSES ON ABENAKI LANGUAGE PRESERVATION
North Haverhill, NH- The non-profit White Pine Association (WPA) for the Koasek Abenaki [Nancy (Millette) Cruger – Lyons – Doucet] and in assistance to other Abenaki Bands within the Abenaki Nation’s alliance [The Abenaki Alliance is made up of the Koasek, Nulhegan, Missisquoi/ Sokoki and El-Nu Abenaki Nations] has put together an aggressive Abenaki language preservation program.
“We are very excited and grateful for this opportunity,” said Trustees of the White Pine Association. The board trustees members include: Nancy Millette, Peggy Fullerton, John Prescott, Colleen Chase, Dr. Raymond Lussier and Mike Fenn.
All members with the exception of Dr. Ray Lussier where born and raised in the Haverhill / Newbury, N.H. area.
Suzette Leclair and her daughter Johann Robitaille
It was Suzette Leclair and her daughter Johann Robitaille ALONG with the above mentioned Raymond F. Lussier that began turning the Catherine Pillard ('fille du roi' from France) into an ALLEGED Indigenous (Huron) woman. BOTH of these women were in Nancy (Millette)'s Koasek "tribe" as members, though they were and are from Canada. Not Vermont Abenakis whatsoever.
Here as follows is an email communication to my person where Raymond Lussier again, points to his DNA proven direct descent from Catherine Pillard:
August 01, 2008 at 10:59 PM
August 01, 2008 at 10:59 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com, chiefnaki@comcast.net Nancy Milette, sogomo@comcast.net, peg4@earthlink.net, brialcay@yahoo.com Brian Chenevert
Douglas Lloyd;
I really have no idea what your problem is with Nancy Millette. But let's just start this conversation off by saying I am a DNA proven direct descendent of the Attigno8stan Huron war Chief Atsena "le Plat" and his wife Annchesthon (direct female line of Siberian Shamans). I'm also a descendent of the Huron Cord Clan via the Matchnon line. I'm Micmac (Claude), Takous Algonquin (Francois Takous Toraud) and Abenaquis and I have a multitude of provable native family connections that go back before the recorded history of the white man in this world.
I also have proud African roots from the Moors that were brought to this country as slaves or exiles. But I digress here on myself because this message is not about me, it is all about you!!! And that's what it is all about right? It's all about you!!!! And, isn't that that M.O. of every false Shaman and sweat lodge guru? It's all about me!
So what anyway? You don't really care about the historical native families that are out there for you to find and claim as your own? What I see is that your bad spirit will cause you never to find what you are looking for. You are and will continue to be a lost soul. Am I speaking to your heart yet Lloyd? I'm looking right at it! I can see your soul right here in front of me and it is not a pretty sight. I can see your deep confusion and inner turmoil in the palm of my hand. Although I see your turmoil and your inner pain, that is no excuse for your attack on my people and it will definitely not be tolerated.
Let me be very clear and forthright to you here, in spite of your deep inner confusion, your actions will not be tolerated by us from a legal perspective. I'm sorry Lloyd, they simply will not be tolerated. You have finally taken your obsession over the line and now, from the White man's legal point of view you are going to have to pay for it.
We only wish to take you to the White man's judgement as our very last resort but you just keep leaving us no options. do you? What do you want to do Lloyd? Let's be really really clear on this point, you will cease and desist from any further harassment of Nancy Millette or the Abenaki Nation will pursue their legal options against you.
Lloyd, you don't get this Native American thing it at all, do you?. And that just proves you must not have any native ancestry or family connections or you would not feel so disconnected from our extended family. Personally, my life is satisfied by the fact that I can identify hundreds of family members who are connected to me by our common native experience over vast periods of time whether they are Abenakis or not. Can you?? I don't think so. And, that is the source of your spiritual unsettlement. You don't and can't understand that and that is why you cannot be accepted in any native community. Nancy Millette is accepted by us and that's really all that matters but you just don't get that, do you? To real natives your inability to perceive this inexorable and fundamental truth speaks to us for itself.
What you really don't get is----"WE KNOW HOW WE ARE BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE EACH OTHER." It is not about how much blood you have. It is about being recognized as a member of a very large and old connected family. I feel sorry for you because of your inability to understand our common history and what has now and has always brought us together. Unfortunately for you, it has set you apart and has made you an exile instead of a brother. I fell deeply sorry for you in that regard but that is your own doing.
But on a more legal note, if you persist in producing the kind of defamatory screed as you have, make no mistake we will take legal action against you. We fully understand that you are not subject to our Tribal Law but we will utilize all means available to us under the State and Federal Laws to stop what we, as the Abenaki Nation, perceive to be your libelous activities.
Lloyd, if you would like to communicate with me personally about what your concerns might be then let me know. But don't think that I'm am going to stand for any harassing activities from you, I will not and thus you have fair warning. And believe me, should you attempt to do so I will take serious legal actions on you.
Adio
Raymond lussier
Tribal Judge
Koasek Abenaki Nation
Unified Abenaki Confederation
March 21, 2009 at 10:24 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Mr. Buchholz;
A while back, I sent you a message defending Ms. Milette. I am an honest man and I have to send you my apology for that because she is a complete fake. I was wrong to do that since she has no verified native ancestry of any kind and I knew that at the time. I have to say that all of our research on her has backed up all of what you have said in print.
One thing however, many of the members of our Band do have verifiable native lines and we are not afraid to show our own personal genealogies to the State, most of which do not relate to historical Vermont Abenaki. It is almost impossible to prove direct tie to the historical area. Actually I have never seen a single clear proof.
You ask often about the Ramo line. For your information, Ms Millette oddly enough does not relate to the "George Ramo" line that is so often called "Abenaki". There were three different families by that name in the same town of "Derby Line". However, if you are of the real "George Ramo" line you do have a native ancestor. In that line is the Gouget family who tie back to the Huron Chief Atsenha "Le plat" and his wife Annegthon. There is ample evidence of this from my own work and now proven by a world renown genealogist. This may be the source of all the "oral tradition" among these supposed Abenakis in Vermont.
I would be glad to help you find where you fit in this Ramo line if you give me a point of reference to the "George Ramo" family. This same Huron line of mine is also found in the "Vermont Abenaki" families of St. Francis, Ramo, Shonio, and Boudro among others. Ironically for most of them, it is there only native ancestor. They are not Abenaki in a pure sense.
Let me know if you would like the information regading the Huron line in the Ramo family.
Raymond
March 25, 2009 at 6:18 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Douglas,
Here is the information I promised. There is a lot of background to this so I will leave it up to you to read the links for the scientific and forensic genealogy studies.
Basically the person once thought to be Catherine Pillard who came from France is actually the daughter and possibly only surviving descendent of Chief Atsenha "le Plat" who is well documented in the Jesuit Relation during the Iroquois wars. You can go to this link to research the historical information on this Huron War Chief of the Bear Nation.
A few years back there was a mtDNA result that tracked possibly to Catherine Pillard but it indicated Haplogroup A which is associated with native americans and Siberian natives. I started the research to verify and the result are documented in this article that won the Decarie-Marier award for best article of 2007 in Le Chainon. Catherine's mtDNA has been tracked to several different descendents with proven genealogies. Her DNA is as follows:
Haplogroupe A:
HV 1: 16223T, 16227C, 16290T, 16311C, 16319A, 16519C
HV 2: 73G, 235G, 263G, 315.1C, 522-, 523- et 544T.
This is the link to the first article that I lead and proved that the DNA was lined to Catherine Pillard. See the following link:
Subsequent to article, more genealogies were proven to link to Catherine. However, during that time, the world renowned genealogist Gail Moreau-Desharnais began to take interest in the topic due to a old Baptism record she could never place. This second link to a new article proves that the once thought French records are incorrect and that Catherine is the daughter of Chief Atsenha "Le Plat" and his wife Annegthon. The Baptism record places her birth in the correct time as stated by Rev. Archange Godbout in 1651. As you will see her original name was only listed as 8enta (Wendat) on the Baptism record. She was renamed for her godmother Catherine DelaVaux wife of Gilbert Lebarbier. It seems Catherine was left with the Jesuits after her mother, older sister and nephew were killed by the Iroquois. Plat himself later gave himself up to the Iroquois as documented in the Jesuit Relations. The family nexus around Catherine ties strongly around the families associated with the Barbiers in Montreal. This link is still only available in French but you can probably get the point. The analysis is corroborated by the world famous forensic genealogist Colleen Fitzpatrick as you will see at the end of the article.
Now this family has many descendents since Catherine had 12 children. Many of the "Vermont Abenaki" have this line as their only native link. Ramo, Shonio, Boudro, St. Francis and probably more. I personally descend from Catherine twice through my GGM having descent on both sides of her line. I will leave it to you to find more links but here is the link for the Ramo family.
Sorry they are from Highgate, Franklin County, Vermont not Derby Line, Orleans County, Vermont as I mis-stated.
I'll pick it up at Isaih Ramo and do only the direct lines since I assume you have the spouses.
Here you are:
Catherine 8enta Plat (Pillard) Full Blooded Huronne
Anne Charon
Anne Antoinette Goguet
Jacques Viau L'Esperance
Anne Viau L'Esperance
Anne Garrand
Isaih Ramo
Chief Atsenha "Le Plat" Attignoustan (Bear Nation Ossossane (La Rochelle) and wife Annegthon (possibly Algonquin with pure paleo-Indian Siberian affinities extremely rare DNA type no other exact matches found outside this family line.)
So no, not Vermont Abenaki but well researched and proven genealogy. No we don't just claim to be "Abenaki" and insist that everyone agree with us. We work on our stuff and we will present it to the State at any time. We think that all the other people demanding recognition should do the same. If they can't , they have something to hide not that they are "in hiding".
I hope this answer some questions for you on why there may have been a tradition of native in these families. I have 23 lines that have been identified by one source or another but I only this an one other that are substantiated by genealogy and DNA but that is two more than most of the self-proclaimed Abenaki.
Keep researching and good luck.
By the way Nancy Millette does not descend from this Ramo line. I cannot give you that analysis since I did not do it but there are three different Ramo families.
Raymond
June 11, 2009 at 10:06 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com Raymond F. Lussier
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Douglas;
I have to say your work http://reinventedvermontabenaki.blogspot.com is brilliant! You have nailed the vast majority of the fake Abenaki in Vermont. Our band had come to this same realization a while back and we do demand genealogy and are willing to make it public. We are ready to tell the real truth when the time comes and let the chips fall where they may with the State. Many of the "Abenaki" people who are really native are descendants of the Huron lines I sent you or other Algonquin or Odanak links. Most of those who claim "Abenaki" have no native lines at all. Those are usually the ones who call themselves "First Families". They are largely descendents of the "Order of the Redman" or other such fraternal organizations. I hope you know there are many real natives out here and we do support the need to identify ourselves clearly if we take money or seek recognition. You are 100% right about that. It only stands to reason as it could only lead to legal issues when such misleading things are done. I hope you will keep this in confidence until the right time but, in our Band, we think you are pretty much on the right track. I hope you keep up your research and don't throw all the Bands in the same bucket. We are working toward a public position that is not at all inconsistent with what you say. Give us a chance and we will come forward with it in due time. In the mean time, I wish you success with your genealogy research and the pursuit of your roots. Of course we cannot just proclaim our ancestry, only a greedy liar or a fool would believe that. Proof is required.
Akawana!
Raymond
Tribal Judge
Koasek Traditional Band
June 11, 2009 at 11:06 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Douglas;
We are in the process of putting all our documentation together. All of the genealogy data is being sorted out after many years of abuse of record keeping and "de facto" card issuing as you rightly point out. We are trying very hard to set all that mess straight but it will take us a considerable time to do so. As you may know, it is a big undertaking to clean up the mess of so many years of abuse. But, we are committed to it, that I can tell you for sure and we will go forward to the State with the results for better or worse. Frankly, we agree with you and we are sick of the attacks, fighting and insanity that goes on in the name of "Abenaki". We have had enough! Unfortunately, because most of us are committed to this view, our Band has been cut off and left in a state of disarray at the hands of the "Alliance". We are in the process of putting things back together but things will be put back together on the basis of real native lines not "Abenaki BS". Honestly, it will take us some time to accomplish this task. You will have to be patient with us! But, in the meantime rest assured you are not wrong in your views. I will let you know when we have more to say. You can certainly go forward with the information I gave you on the Huron lines for several of the "Abenaki".
(I sent you French versions but I now have English, Let me know if you need that link). That is work that is done by a world class genealogist and is rock solid. Douglas, I sincerely wish I could give you an immediate salvo to sink this ship, but the truth is, it will be a long process. Good news is, rest assured, our Band is out to tell the truth in the end. We have a long view of things and we are here to stay.
Regards,
Raymond
Tribal Judge
Koasek Traditional Band
June 12, 2009, 12:09 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Subject: Information
Douglas; I am enclosing a piece of my own genealogy including the DNA sequence. By the way, this line relates to many of the "Abenaki" lines that I had pointed out to you, Ramo and St. Francis among them. Clearly, it is Huron. People who claim to be native should be able to put something on paper and have sources for it. I have many other pieces but that is not the point. Any one claiming native should be able to provide at least this minimum. I am not afraid of what you will do with this information since it is just the truth. The way we see it, the fear of telling the truth and the seeking of recognition from those one fears is irreconcilable unless there is something to hide. We have additional information on the genealogy of a "certain individual" Nancy (nee: Millette) Cruger/ Lyons/ Doucet that may go even further than what you have discovered thus far. I hope you can understand our concern with providing it. Let me just say, your conclusions are still correct based on our information. If you are interested, I would be glad to tell you the true story of how the newly formed group the "Koas" came about. You have probably only heard things through the rumor mill.
Raymond
Raymond
June 12, 2009, 4:52 PM
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Information
Douglas;
Ok. There is documentation to support what I will tell you. However, it is mostly in the form of personal e-mails that were sent back and forth. Unlike many out there, I have a policy of not forwarding personal e-mails all over creation. Chiefs Brian Chenevert and Paul Bunnell will back my story up. I can tell you it reflects the accurate facts of how things went down. So if you hear otherwise, don't believe it. Back in the fall of last year, we began the process of preparation for an election of our Council and a new Sub-Chief as well as the vote on ratification of a new Constitution that would limit a Chief's service time to 7 years. At that time, Ms. Millette had been acting as a temporary appointed sub-Chief to support us in representation to the recognition process and the emerging Alliance because she knew the players. She had resigned from her role as co-Chief (for life) some time before that, largely due to pressures from folks like you who kept the interrogation on the genealogy alive (I have no problem with that as you know). She Nancy Millette had been unable to provide any documentation to support her claims to Abenaki ancestry or any other native ancestry. We are not saying she doesn't have any, only that she has not proven it. There was mounting pressure from within the Band to insist that she provide the required documentation like all others (honestly we are still in the process of cleaning this up and will take time to get it fully in line). Now in her defense, she did try to get her genealogy straight. Many people very experienced in native genealogy provided support but no links were ever identified. We had serious concern that if she continued to represent the Band in a public forum that this would become an issue. Having legacy citizens with no paperwork is one thing, having a front person in the line of fire is quite a different matter, as you will understand. Well, it seems the new found glory of association with the Alliance as an appointed sub-Chief was very much to her liking. It was here things began to come undone in about October of last year. Rather than following my advice and putting her name on the ballot for the election, she chose to attempt a power coup. During a Council meeting she demanded to be reinstated as Chief for life claiming that her previous resignation was not valid. Sorry, it was unanimously approved by a Council vote of 7-0. At this point, the use of ugly smear tactics entered the equation against one of the candidates for sub-Chief. Ultimately, sub-Chief Paul Bunnell was elected. Here began the end of the end. In response to this rebuff of the demand to be reinstated as Co-Chief for life, in December of last year Ms. Millette, along with a number of her followers from North Haverhill families resigned from our Band. They created the new name and redirected our tribal web-site so that we could not gain access to it. The volunteer webmaster also defected. We were left to start from scratch. Although this new "Koas" splinter group came into existence only in December of 2008, they suddenly became the Band of record in the Recognition Bill and we were left out (political pressure or coincidence?). We were also dropped from the Alliance. We believe largely due to our views that genealogy should be provided, that the State is not to be viewed as the enemy and that the only "hiding" is the hiding of a lack of proof . At that time, the El Nu Band who had a sub-Band arrangement with us also defected to the newly formed "Koas" band. We believe largely to follow the better chance at recognition given their lack of genealogical evidence, speculation? Maybe but I don't think so. Since that time we have been attempting to re-group, as our 501c3 was yanked out from under us in the process along the our website that was paid for out of Tribal funds. There have been constant attacks on us including an attempted underhanded attack on us to the Vermont Commission for which I do have documentation and my letter to the former Chairperson in response. We simply want to move forward with our Band and cease all these stupid attacks. We don't even care all that much about recognition. We can live with it or without it. We are not out to make money. We have less than $300 in our till. But, we are committed to making sincere efforts to ensure that genealogy is required. As I have said, there are still many problems even within our Band and it will take us a long time to rectify them. We honestly still have citizens who have not provided valid papers. But all new folks must have the real thing in hand. I won't be able to talk with you until Monday. I'm available in the evening at 978-649-8728 Tyngsborough, Middlesex County, Massachusetts. We really don't want to make more trouble but we are getting sick of being attacked when we are trying to do the right thing and move on.
Regards,
Raymond
June 06, 2011
From: drraymondl@aol.com
To: douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com
Hi Douglas;
I am no longer the Tribal Judge and not affiliated in any way with the Koasek Traditional Band. Nor, will I be at any time in the future. I resigned during the time of Mr. Paul Joseph Bunnell's resignation and subsequent resurrection.
As to their history, Karen Jean (nee: Boudreau) Majka Mica has taken on the role of "Tribal Historian", I have no further comment.
You already have the letter you mention posted on your Blog. I no longer have a copy.
The "Four Indians of Alburgh" is an interesting debate. I'm familiar with the BIA's position but I see how there could be some confusion. I have not done enough research to say absolutely who is right. But, I'm sure we will hear more in the future.
Regards
Raymond
2011 –
Our Tribal Judge, Raymond Lussier, also stepped down. I can't say enough about him. I will miss him. It will be difficult for me to find someone who will do as much as what he did for this tribe.
Paul Joseph Bunnell
Raymond Lussier has been in the following two groups and is in the third group presently:
1. Koasek Traditional Band of the Koas Abenaki Nation (Nancy Millette – Doucet and Bernie MOrtz group)
2. The Traditional Koasek Abenaki The Koasek Traditional Band of the Abenaki Nation (Paul J. Bunnell and Nathan Pero’s group)
3. Abenaki Tribe at Nulhegan ~ Memphremagog / Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk Abenaki Nation (Luke Willard and now Donald W. Stevens Jr.'s group)
May 07, 2015
Donald Warren Stevens Jr. (of the Missisquoi group and then the Nulhegan group)
RosaDelima (Delia Bone) Benoit dite Livernois: Benoit (Bone) back to Catherine Pillard descends, like many "Abenaki" self-identifying people within Vermont, etc.
She wasn't Huron, and Don Stevens Jr. isn't Abenaki/Huron either.
Don Stevens may ASSUME she was Huron, just as I did, because of Raymond F. Lussier, etc. but according to the Charron Association Concise Evaluation of Catherine Pillard dite Ducharme she was merely a 'fille du roi' from France. NOT A HURON or indigenous woman.
She wasn't Huron, and Don Stevens Jr. isn't Abenaki/Huron either.
Don Stevens may ASSUME she was Huron, just as I did, because of Raymond F. Lussier, etc. but according to the Charron Association Concise Evaluation of Catherine Pillard dite Ducharme she was merely a 'fille du roi' from France. NOT A HURON or indigenous woman.
September 23, 2019
Author: Darryl R. J. Leroux
Associate Professor, Department of Social Justice and Community Studies, Saint Mary’s University
Recently in Canada and the United States, a small but vocal minority of white French-descendants have used an ancestor born between 300 and 400 years ago to claim an “Indigenous” identity. Most of these claims are to a “Métis” identity, though many also claim “Abenaki” and “Algonquin” identities.
Since 2014, I’ve been researching this shift into an “Indigenous” identity, which has been especially noticeable since a series of Supreme Court of Canada decisions between 1999 and 2003.
For my book, Distorted Descent: White Claims to Indigenous Identity, I dove into 12 years of online genealogy forums. One of the most surprising findings was how the same French women were transformed into Indigenous women on different forums in both French and English.
Building on the work of academics Kim TallBear and Alondra Nelson, this practice is called aspirational descent. It involves changing an ancestor’s identity to fit one’s current desire to shift away from a white identity.
Often, this is done by opponents of Indigenous land claims. In other cases, as in U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren, one simply repeats false family stories passed down over the generations, ignoring the voices of Indigenous peoples along the way.
This practice isn’t only limited to online spaces. The same French women are also used by the three largest “Métis” organizations in Québec and half a dozen “Abenaki” tribes in New England for membership. The practice is so common that in the 5,000 membership records that I’ve seen, about 30 per cent of members have no Indigenous ancestry at all: they rely solely on a French woman born prior to 1650 for their so-called Indigenous identity.
After reviewing their records, it’s fair to say that about 50 “Indigenous” organizations created since 2003 are Indigenous only in name: no level of government, court or Indigenous Peoples have recognized them as Indigenous.
September 24, 2019
Posted by James “Swift Fox” Taylor of East Providence, Rhode Island logged in via Google
Comment Section:
(Jim Taylor speaking of Darryl Leroux) Your just another White Savior telling Indians who the Real Indians are with a book that will be only be used to cause more lateral violence to divide and conquer other native people.
Raymond Lussier and his comrades have chosen to denigrate (to an extreme) with their vitriol against Mr. Leroux 'behind' the wall of a "closed" FaceBook Group of the Nulhegan-Coosuk "Tribe".
Raymond Lussier and his comrades have chosen to denigrate (to an extreme) with their vitriol against Mr. Leroux 'behind' the wall of a "closed" FaceBook Group of the Nulhegan-Coosuk "Tribe".
September 24, 2019
Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk-Abenaki Nation Official Group (Closed FB Group)
464 members in this FB Group
Richard Holschuh:
Jeanne “Morningstar” (Lalime) Lincoln-Kent, what do you thing about this article? I am very familiar with Darryl Leroux’s themes.
Melody (nee: Walker) Brook:
I am waiting for the “Abenakis are frauds” article by this author. It is in the works …
Richard Holschuh:
It’s included in this article
Melody (nee: Walker) Brook:
UGH. I guess I didn’t read it …
Jeanne “Morningstar” (Lalime) Lincoln-Kent:
That is why I shared the article. I am concerned about the intent behind this research and publication.
Blair Paterson:
I believe that the idea of “self-identification” is at the heart of this.
I have had many conversations with my wife and two daughters about my own Nulhegan identity. Part of it has come about because of family lore – but for the most part it is not because I claim Nulhegan identity but rather that those who have sovereignty and authority, admitted me into the group.
I realize it is problematic to have post-colonial powers such as the state and other forms of government assign legitimacy to the Abenaki.
We don’t need States to tell us who we are.
However, in the arena of sovereign states – other states do recognize the legitimacy of their neighbors.
I thank Gchi Nwaskw ‘Great Spirit’ in Abenaki that I am Abenaki – But I am only Abenaki because you called me so.
Rhonda Lou (nee: Besaw) Grimes – True:
As an individual first and foremost sovereign unto myself, I identify who I am.
My identity is not dependent upon the whims of others, as it comes directly from my birth as an Indian woman.
The only being that can confer Indian ‘status” is the Creator.
We need to stop looking to others for approval of our identity.
We need to spend more time looking inward for that connection to Creator.
Once a strong spiritual foundation is established, many of these other concerns will fall away.
Jill Cresey-Gross:
Looks like the ensuing argument between the Big M Métis and the little m métis is what’s fueling some of this.
Looks like the ensuing argument between the Big M Métis and the little m métis is what’s fueling some of this.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
The Crown is pissed that they may have to pay people. This Troll (Darryl Leroux) is one of their shills like Jacques Beaugrand.
The Crown is pissed that they may have to pay people. This Troll (Darryl Leroux) is one of their shills like Jacques Beaugrand.
Jill Cresey-Gross:
I believe you.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Only because it is true!
Donald Warren Stevens Jr.:
Regardless of what people say, the state of Vermont has recognized our Nulhegan tribe and citizens as Abenaki. We are legally Abenaki, in legislative law.
If that is not good enough, our settlement agreement with the DOI and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service recognized our tribe, and recognized some of us directly as Abenaki Indian.
So screw the haters and regardless of what people want to prove or not.
We are legally Abenaki by statute in 2011 and we don’t need to go any further in our proof because we did that with the state of Vermont and no one else need anything.
Our citizenship criteria are within each tribe and our own business.
So anyone on the membership/citizenship rolls that have been published from the 2011 recognition, are Abenaki in statute.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Don Stevens that is why I said “What happens in the U.S. is none of his (Darryl Leroux) damn business.
He (Darryl Leroux) is clueless to the fact that Tribes recognize their people … not some academic hack from Canada. “Piss off troll boy.”
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Please! I am well aware of this “4th rate “researcher” from Canada. He has been called out for his racist bias by many people. This a fight in Canada because the “Crown” is scared to death that they will have so many “métis” people that they will have to give up some of the monies they have stolen over the years.
I had Jacques Beauregard at the low end of the respect pile for integrity of research, but this guy Darryl (Leroux) “peaks to a new low” …
Even the Charron and Ducharme Association, Incorporated, who I hold in no regard admits that the argument is not at all clear. Fact is, there is not one piece of evidence that Catherine came from France. NONE PERIOD!
So, to make that a Prima Face part of your argument disqualifies you from the get-go.
This guy is just a loudmouth agitator from Canada out to defend the “Crown”.
I am so proud of how much ground swell in Canada there is with our family that I feel like Davy Hogan in the pie eating contest in Stand by Me.
A boy’s ultimate revenge … Right in the “Crown’s” face
This guy (Darryl Leroux) is a fart in a wind storm.
Don’t give him the time of day.
Shawn Nordlund:
Oh my … here we go again.
N'daibena'skwa (We Are Still Here)
Jill Cresey-Gross:
Would love to know how he (Darryl Leroux) was able to view “membership records” (big difference between a membership list and a citizenship roll). I have never heard of any tribal entity disclosing any part of their rolls to outsiders.
Melody (nee: Walker) Brook:
It was a breach of sovereignty. The Tribal rolls are public record, thanks to the state of Vermont.
Jill Cresey-Gross:
OMG, that’s just not right.
Melody (nee: Walker) Brook:
We fought so hard but Kesha Ram pushed for transparency. We told the state this would happen.
Koas Nancy Lee (nee: Millette) Doucet’ group is actually encrypted so they can’t understand what everything means.
We were pretty pissed.
The Progressives decide on another Eugenics Survey … and they insisted we provide addresses – no P.O. Boxes allowed, just Physical addresses.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Dan Coutu, I belonged to the Arcadian Research group for many years.
The Lejeune family has a very obscure history.
It is not like people are running out and making things up.
There were some documents saying they were Micmac.
Until DNA muddied the water, only traceable to records was available.
So people who had for many years, without genealogy as Native, finally, had evidence.
But now, DNA that does not fit the mtDNA model means they have no relation to that Tribe.
That is fundamentally the most racist hypothesis on the planet.
Richard Holschuh:
Hmm … I see one comment removed and flagged, and several others still other comments standing.
The argument isn’t going to go anywhere though, because, as you said, he (Darryl Leroux) is approaching it through a very narrow lens and for certain reasons.
The net he has cast is fishing outside of his original premises, in a series of logical fallacies.
Melody (nee: Walker) Brook:
Ok. Well I read the article again when I wasn’t dead tired. He (Darryl Leroux) is using the stereotypical view of what an Indian is (Indian as … in invented).
There is no socio-political viewpoint.
It is all genealogy. (That is easily refuted)
But why do we keep having to do this?
He removed JT’s comments (Shocker!)
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
He (Darryl Leroux) is just an academic version of our favorite nutcase (Douglas Lloyd Buchholz a.k.a. Salmon). He (Darryl) is a Canadian. What happens in the U.S. is none of his damn business. He (Darryl) is clueless to the fact that Tribes recognize their people; not some academic hack from Canada.
Carol (nee: Billings) McGranaghan:
It hurts to have one’s identity trashed like this. I have to wonder why he (Darryl Leroux) is doing this, through his narrow lens and bias.
Is it for the usual … money … “fame” and self-promotion? – Which seems to motivate him writing and selling his book?
I also wonder if he is aware of the Eugenics movement in Vermont, which targeted those who were not white (including those identified as “French Canadian”).
Why would such a project exist if there were persons of color who were not Abenaki in Vermont at that time? I personally know families who were targeted in the Eugenics Survey of Vermont – including my own – and they are not African American.
It would not have been worth the money, time and effort to wipe out a population of people, if indigenous people were not the targets.
September 28, 2019
More from the Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk-Abenaki Nation Official Group (Closed FB Group)
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Maybe this guy Darryl Leroux should get some hard blow-back from our people? Nowadays, if you say one non-politically-correct thing as a College Professor against any race you will get fired. What if we have us (Nulhegan) and our sister tribes and affiliated organizations send numerous complaints to Saint Mary’s University 923 Robie St. Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H 3C3, Canada, stating our objections to Mr. Leroux’s unfounded racist slander against our people. He has a job, unlike our favorite antagonist nutcase Douglas Lloyd Buchholz. Per what Chief Donald Warren Stevens Jr. and I have said, our acceptance is settled law in Vermont. We need to shut this guy’s ‘insidious anti-Tribal parasitic’ reputation building off in the bud. Let’s mount a cross tribal grievance and shut this guy’s racist agenda against our people down for good.
We need to have this be coordinated at an organization level i.e. not just individuals. All four Abenaki tribes of Vermont are all affected as we are all highly related on this family line. The unrecognized Tribes are directly affected as well, possibly more so since they are also related and this racist basis could affect their future recognition, if that is what they want. We should also have co-solidarity from all our 7 nations’ tribes of which we are a part. Also any other Tribes that find this kind of assault on our tribal identity an egregious offense to all native people. He (Darryl Leroux) is just a race shill for the Crown.
I am now asking on behalf of our people that Chief Donald Warrens Stevens Jr. and the Nulhegan Council to petition all other Tribes to generate a request for solidarity and direct our strong objection to the racist implications of Professor Leroux’s unfounded accusations against Tribes recognized as protected classes under ratified State Law. Subsequent to that should be a petition to have Professor Leroux removed from his position at St. Mary’s University or be strongly censured for his slanderous accusations against a State-recognized minority.
This guy is a shameless self-promoter, not a nutcase like our best friend Douglas Lloyd Buchholz. Professor Leroux needs to get a hard object lesson in what it means to stick your ignorant head in the hornet’s nest. And, he went there. Now the hornets need to sting back with a vengeance.
Donald Warren Stevens Jr.:
I agree that the chiefs should talk about this and be strategic about it. We have to also be careful that we don’t bring more attention to this guy (Darryl Leroux) to give him an audience.
Ken Mortz (Bernie Mortz brother):
Good point Chief Don Stevens. Reacting to it will just give him the opening to bounce off of our words with more crap.
Ken Mortz:
What good is a performance without an audience?
Donald Warren Stevens Jr.:
It doesn’t hurt to write his University to ask some questions but it needs to be done in the proper way and we need to make sure the University is mentioned in the article or in his signature line. This would tie him to his position at the University and not to individual opinion.
Donald Warren Stevens Jr.:
It has come to our attention that people have been asked to provide genealogy and pose/ pretend to be part of Nulhegan who are not. The only people who may ask for documents are Michael A. Descoteaux (or possibly myself) on rare occasion.
Our contact information is on our applications or can be validated on our website. Please verify that it is one of us so you protect your personal paperwork. There are people who always want to do us harm so be wary of who you give stuff too unless you don’t care who has your lineage or documents. We don’t want to hinder those people actually trying to find help but we need balance against the trolls and haters who just want to cause harm. The tribe does not share any documents you provide us with anyone. The documents are for our records only.
Sandra L. O’Brien, Hilda LaSalle, Bobbi Gagne: Thank you
Cathie Baker: Well said Chief Don. Thank you
Brian Carr: Thanks, Chief Don.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
And right to the point regarding Darryl Leroux. I personally, shared my genealogy with people. I shared my genealogy with people because I come from a time when that information was not easy or even possible to obtain. We went on family oral tradition. And, we followed the lifestyle we believed, in per our verbal history. But, when verification comes through genealogical research or science to be called “cultural appropriation” is “racist” even to me. And I really hate playing that card.
Darryl A. Peasley:
Raymond Lussier and I for one, thank you for sharing with me, after thirty years of searching, until I responded to a post of yours, when I asked about a family name. Thank you!
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
Darryl, it’s my pleasure. It is an honor.
Darryl A. Peasley:
Raymond, one of these days I am going to apply for Nulhegan citizenship.
Chase Ashley:
Don’t know if anyone’s interested but there’s his face book page.
Chase Ashley:
In today’s world vagrant remarks on anyone’s race is not stood for.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
There is absolutely no question that he Darryl Leroux is a product of “Francophone Racist” outlook in Quebec. Just assume the “cow whisper” Jacques Beauregard were correct. His expertise is barnyard psychology, not DNA. In some alternate racist universe, would he assume the right to redefine DNA that was identified by an actual DNA expert Douglas Wallace, not some wannabe hack like Jacques Beauregard, as being a very rare form of Siberian DNA. So, even if we were from France, which Dr. Wallace clearly said was impossible, why would these racists convert us to French?
They are racist because when there is one case that looks “European” it is ‘European’ but, for us who are not in their DNA footprint too, we have to be European too.
What more perfect description of racist identity do you need?
The Charron Association cannot stand the idea that they are Native American or circumpolar native Siberian. Therein lays the proof of their racial purity identity. There are no two ways. I want to see this shill brought to the ground.
I noticed this racist horse’s ass does not allow comments other than from friends. Wonder why?
Chace Ashley:
Glass house
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
And, he is Canadian and has no business commenting on our US recognized rights. He should look at his own criminal Prime Minister first. It is not like the “Crown” has not done enough to infringe on their own Indigenous People’s rights, right? If we don’t have the guts to “voice up” against this total asshole, I’m going to take it to the Suffolk Law Indigenous Rights group and put the “R” brand on this guy’s butt cheek.
Ok, where the hell is the defense of our people against this known racist? Do we have to get all the un-elected “Chief and Council” to “agree” on our right to defend ourselves as a people? I say no!
Raymond "Palm-Reading" F. Lussier:
So, it’s not just me that has an issue with this racist.
For our AIM members and I know we have some. I asked that the misguided guy who claimed to be a “Nulhegan Pipe Carrier” be treated with understanding of possible issue. This guy Darryl Leroux needs to get the maximum treatment. He is a self-serving racist liar who deprecates our people for his own personal gain. Whatever AIM wants to do to this guy is fine with me.
Diana Moses:
Instead of making fun of our tribal members that don’t know how to hunt, fish, gather, weave, speak our language, etc … why don’t you mentor them? Teach each other. Bartering isn’t just about trading goods but about trading knowledge. Hoarding knowledge is selfish.
Brian Chenevert:
Sad but true … unfortunately sometimes trying to get people to share history, knowledge or how to make crafts/regalia is like pulling teeth!
Jeanne “Morningstar” Antoinette (nee: Lalime) Kent
Have to remember that the period of being ashamed and hiding Native identity had been a lot longer than recent acceptance. And still there are those who make being Native uncomfortable. Change comes slowly.
Brian Chenevert:
I think someone sharing knowledge with others within our tribal community and telling non-natives outside our community about your heritage are two totally different subjects.
Raymond “Palm-Reading” Lussier:
I took the liberty of reporting this guy’s racism to the Suffolk Indigenous Law Clinic with substantiating facts. He will be branded internationally as a racist because their scope has increased to all indigenous people.
I will be sending my own personal complaint to this butthead’s University to refute his slanderous and libelous comment about the malicious intent of our research. This guy is an asshole and he needs to get fed a dose of his own shit.
And my complaint to his “University” has nothing to do with this Tribe. It has to do with his willful, slanderous and libelous misrepresentation of views presented in a peer-reviewed series of articles for his own racist agenda. He should be fired from his position for that kind of academic deceit.
October 09, 2019 9:51 pm
From: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
To: drraymondl@aol.com
Subject: You really are a special kind of stupid, and proving it in every rant you do against Darryl Leroux.
Keep assuming I can't 'see' you for who you are.
Douglas
October 10, 2019 at 3:47 PM
To: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
From: drraymondl@aol.com
Do not ever send me an email again. I have saved your threat and will escalate it if I ever hear from you again. I am taking the liberty of paying forward your threat against me for challenging a racist like Darryl Leroux.
And, by the way, nobody comments on you because you are considered a "No account crackpot".
Do not contact me ever again with these kinds of threats or, I will take action against you.
Raymond
What "threat"? I don't see any "threat" whatsoever at all in my single recent email communication to Raymond Lussier of Tynborough, Massachusetts.
Apparently it would seem, that "not all hands are on deck" and that "not all cylinders are operating in the engine room" of Raymond "Palm-Reader" Lussier of the Nulhegan "tribe" ... 😉
And the SMEAR campaign begins from Raymond "Palm-Reader" F. Lussier:
I too have to laugh. Homer Sr. didn't kick me out of nothing ... I left voluntarily when they tried to BS the BIA back in 1995. This is the Nulhegan monkey's ... gotta laugh at this particular "tribal judge" ... and his rant. Reminds me of the Trump's supporters do. All this is ... is cosplay and Abenaki Identity Theft.
He lives 15 miles from the border of Wisconsin
but he was raised in Illinois.
Jameel did live in WI in the summers at his uncle's farm ...
and great grandpa's cabin in Medford Taylor Co., WI.
WHY IS HE EVEN IN A VERMONT "ABENAKI" GROUP?
NOT EVEN ABENAKI, and yet their "Nulhegan Abenaki" ?
... to learn the "culture" he says
(from 1,107.7 miles due west from Vermont)
because of a 300 year old ancestor ...
that makes him "Abenaki"
and a membership card in his wallet
Not AFTER the Money $$$ (?) Really?
Sherry (nee: Blanchard) Gould Genealogy Mapping (Partial)
This is all about the MONEY!
$25,000.00 dollars from the Vermont Land Trust!
These Wannabiiak "Abenaki" can't do anything
without a hand out.
Sovereign?
Really?
Apparently it would seem, that "not all hands are on deck" and that "not all cylinders are operating in the engine room" of Raymond "Palm-Reader" Lussier of the Nulhegan "tribe" ... 😉
And the SMEAR campaign begins from Raymond "Palm-Reader" F. Lussier:
I too have to laugh. Homer Sr. didn't kick me out of nothing ... I left voluntarily when they tried to BS the BIA back in 1995. This is the Nulhegan monkey's ... gotta laugh at this particular "tribal judge" ... and his rant. Reminds me of the Trump's supporters do. All this is ... is cosplay and Abenaki Identity Theft.
It does NOT matter what these Wannabiiak SAY or IMPLY.
He lives 15 miles from the border of Wisconsin
but he was raised in Illinois.
Jameel did live in WI in the summers at his uncle's farm ...
and great grandpa's cabin in Medford Taylor Co., WI.
WHY IS HE EVEN IN A VERMONT "ABENAKI" GROUP?
NOT EVEN ABENAKI, and yet their "Nulhegan Abenaki" ?
... to learn the "culture" he says
(from 1,107.7 miles due west from Vermont)
because of a 300 year old ancestor ...
that makes him "Abenaki"
and a membership card in his wallet
This group nor any "Abenaki" group in Vermont IS NOT A "NATION" and their NOT are "SOVEREIGN" as they IMPLY.
They sought official State Recognition fraudulently under Vermont State Laws!
(that negated their sovereignty...)
(that negated their sovereignty...)
Not AFTER the Money $$$ (?) Really?
Sherry (nee: Blanchard) Gould Genealogy Mapping (Partial)
This is all about the MONEY!
$25,000.00 dollars from the Vermont Land Trust!
These Wannabiiak "Abenaki" can't do anything
without a hand out.
Sovereign?
Really?
