More "Commentary" from the Abenaki Nation At Nulhegan/Memphremagog on www. facebook.com:

As of April 20, 2010....

ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG

(Luke Willard)

THE STATE OF VERMONT IS OFFICIALLY TRYING TO KILL OFF THE ABENAKI TRIBES OF VERMONT!!The 1st draft of the House "Recognition" Bill has been released. It's time to STEP UP TO THE PLATE people... call/email your legislators NOW and tell them to STOP! TELL THEM YOU SUPPORT THE ALLIANCE TRIBES and THE HOUSE DRAFT IS GENOCIDE!

2 hours ago

Jessica Sabia Bernier
What's the bill #?
2 hours ago

ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG
(Luke Willard)
S.222... The language of the bill as passed by the senate was good. The House General, Housing, and Military Affairs Committee has gutted it and now it WILL ensure the EXTINCTION of Vermont Abenaki tribes.
about an hour ago

Jessica Sabia Bernier
Is the new text available online? Was it a strike all amendment?
about an hour ago

Amanda Myer
I need to see this information! Where can i find this at?
about an hour ago

ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG
(Luke Willard)
Send your email addresses to firstnationslw@yahoo.com and I'll forward you the House Draft of
the bill.
about an hour ago

Jeanne Morningstar Kent
You know my email address. I would like to see it.

about an hour ago

Nancy Millette Doucet

We have tried to go through this process with some dignity and did not figure upon this trying to undermine all the Abenaki People.

This bill was S.222 was drafted in a way that ALL bands could easily get recognition and in the mean time help families NOW, in these times of economic hardship so that they could market their arts and that kids could get help for college.

Seems that has not been good enough for some of the Abenaki People….The dignified time should end NOW. These people have has a negative email campaign?? Then we start a positive email campaign. Let the state Legislature’s and Senators know your voices, who are FOR the S.222 Bill !!! Let’s see who can be counted and who outnumbers who?!!!
9 hours ago

Nancy Millette Doucet
Not done till the fat lady sings and falls over…
9 hours ago

Nancy Millette Doucet
ooops NOT done I mean...
9 hours ago

Carollee Reynolds
I resemble that remark lol
8 hours ago

NEED I SAY, SHOW or PROVIDE MORE....????

Part 1 ~ Frederick Matthew Wiseman Genealogical Records:

World War 1 Draft Registration Card of Frederick William Wiseman dated September 18, 1918 in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont. He was born March 24, 1873. He indicated himself to be "White" age 45 years old. He was tall of slender build with blue eyes and light colored hair.

Vermont Death Certificate of Frederick W. Wiseman dated December 01, 1955 in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont age 84 years old. He was indicated to be "White" born on March 24, 1871 in Cleveland, Ohio. His usual occupation was a Tool Maker for the Remington Plant. His parents were John Wiseman and Mary (nee: Dutel). His wife was Josephine (nee: Erno).

Vermont Death Record of Josephine Kay (nee: Erno) Wiseman dated (died) on March 02, 1966 at the age of 81 years old, in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont. She was the daugther of Mitchell Erno and Mary (nee: Ouimet). Born on January 12, 1883 in Phillpsburg, Quebec, Canada. She was indicated to be "White."

Death Certificate of Frederick K. (Kermit) Wiseman who died August 24, 1985 in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont at the age of 71 years. He was born June 27, 1914 to Frederick Willam Wiseman and Josephine Kay (nee: Erno).

Marriage Record of Duane Michael Ouimette and Jennifer Lee (nee: Taylor) dated May 03, 1986 in Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont. His parents were Rudolph Kent Ouimette and Viviane Jean (nee: Richard). He was born on September 23, 1964. Her parents were Elmer Taylor and Janice (nee: Carl). She was born on December 29, 1969.

Death Record of Eveyln (nee: Platt), age 73 years, who died May 02, 1989 at the residence of 17 Spring Street in Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont. She was born on August 23, 1915 in Baltimore, Maryland to Matthew William Platt and Anna Marie (nee: Hines). The information was Frederick Wiseman (Son) of Johnson, Vermont 05656.

Vermont Record of Divorce or Annulment of Frederick M. Wiseman of Johnson, Lamoille County, Vermont. He was born March 15, 1943 in Maryland. His wife was Diane E. (nee: Peel) Wiseman born November 08, 1951 in the state of Washington. Frederick Wiseman and Diane E. (nee: Peel) had married in Baton Rouge, Louisiana on January 07, 1978. The husband left the home on January 14, 1991 and sought the Divorce or Annulment from the wife. Divorce was filed July 03, 1991 and subsequently finalized on October 03, 1991 in Lamoille County Family Court in Hyde Park, Vermont

Vermont License and Certificate of Marriage of Frederick Matthew Wiseman and Cherri May (nee: McMurray) whom married on December 21, 1991 in Waterbury, Lamoille County, Vermont. He was born March 15, 1948 in the state of Maryland to Frederick Kermit Wiseman and Evelyn Martha (nee: Platt). Charrie May (nee: McMurray) was born April 26, 1957 in the state of Maine to Robert George McMurray and Shirley F. (nee: Stoddard).

Marriage Record Certificate for Duane Michael Ouimette and Stephanie Renee (nee: Faulkner) whom married on June 22, 1996 in Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont. He was born Septemeber 23, 1964 to R. (Rudolphe) Kent Ouimette and V. Jean (nee: Richard). Stephanie Renee (nee: Faulkner) was born July 13, 1974 to Jim L. Faulkner and Wendy Ann (nee: Cheney).

Vermont Record of Divorce or Annulment for Frederick M. Wiseman and Cherrie M. (nee: McMurray) Wiseman dated August 16, 1996 in Chittenden County, Vermont. The wife was the petitioner for this Divorce or Annulment.

Death Certificate of Dorothy E. (nee: Wiseman) Carman who died April 16, 2000 at the age of 94, in Enosburg Falls, Franlin County, Vermont at the Brownway Residence. She was born October 19, 1905 in Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont to Frederick Wiseman and his wife Josephine (nee: Erno). Dorothy E. Carmen's son Foster H. Carman of 10 No. Hill Road in Ballston Lake, New York 12019 was the informant on the Death Record.

Engagement Announced: Venezia/Wiseman. Mike and Diane Venezia of Newport, Orleans County, Vermont, announce the engagement of their daughter Dara Mae Venezia, of Derby, Orleans County, Vermont to Fred William Wiseman, also of Derby, son of Frederick Matthew Wiseman of Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont and Diane (nee: Peel) of Newport, Orleans County, Vermont.

Dara Mae (nee: Venezia) is a 1998 graduate of North Country Union High School, and a 2001 graduate of Vermont Technical College with an associates degee in Business Management. She is employed at the Newport Elementary School.

Frederick William Wiseman is a 1998 graduate of Missisquoi Valley Union High School, and a 2001 graduate of Vermont Technical College with an associates degree in Computer Science. He is employed at Vermont Link. A June 2002 wedding is planned.

Vermont Licens and Certificate of Marriage of Fred William Wiseman and Dara Mae (nee: Venezia) whom married June 15, 2002 in Newport, Orleans County, Vermont. He was born May 08. 1980 in Louisiana to Frederick M. (Matthew) Wiseman and Diane (nee: Peel) Wiseman. Dara Mae (nee: Venezia) was born December 16, 1980 in Vermont to Michael John Venezia and Diane C. (nee: White).

More Responses on ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG on Facebook.com ~ Vermont Edition's October 29, 2008 Interview with Frederick M. Wiseman:

ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG....on www.facebook.com:

(Luke Willard)

The fight for recognition is over for me. I've said all that I want to say. It was my job to represent the wishes of our citizens. I did that. To my knowledge, there are at least 3 websites devoted to ruining the chief's lives simply because they don't agree with us. Rather pathetic, but, oh well. Back to busines as usual. Back to the land. Back to the people. The scribes will note us in history.

8 hours ago :)~Luke

Carollee Reynolds
Luke, blogs are like assholes, everyone can have one. Let them shove that up their up their blog.
Honored to have my name with the chiefs.
6 hours ago

(Luke Willard)
Thank you, Carollee.
6 hours ago

Jill Cresey-Gross
Why anyone would believe the writings from someone with diminished mental capabilities is
beyond me.
3 hours ago

Donald Stevens
We should have know better than to keep chasing the approval of Euro-Americans. We need to
know concentrate on our heritage and keep the traditions alive for our children. I’m with you all
the way Luke.
about an hour ago

(Luke Willard)
Hope.
Yesterday at 9:54pm

Sherry L. Gould
Always hope!

Yesterday at 10:01pm

Having been made aware of Mr. Luke Andrew Willard's facebook.com posted idiotic statement quote:

Evil things happened in Montpelier, Vermont today (Friday, April 16, 2010). What can you expect from a legislature that made it a "priority" to protect the feelings of transvestites? Soon, you will be able to marry your dog and your sister at the same time...but Vermont Abenakis will NEVER be recognized ....FORCING our artisans to be criminals for selling their crafts as “Abenaki Made”. Shame upon these “lawmakers”. Friday (April 16, 2010) at 9:39pm....

I had a retrospective sort of "Deja Vu" to October 29th, 2008....when Frederick M. Wiseman was doing an Interview for Vermont Edition via Vermont Public Radio.

Audio Link: http://www.archive.org/download/FredWisemanVermontEditionInterview/VermontEdition10-29-2008InterviewFredWiseman.wma

Pay attention to section 21:45 to 24:00 when I telephoned in to VPR's Vermont Editioin, to confront Mr. Wiseman on his alleged "Native Perspective" regarding the Lake Champlain "Quadricentennial Celebration."

One factual historical detail that Mr. Wiseman failed to mention in this Vermont Edition Interview concerning the Lake Champlain Valley/ Abenaki dynamic retrospectively, was that Denise Watso's great-great Uncle John Watso actually is in the records (Ferrisburg, Robinson), as the Abenaki who named the Champlain Valley in the Abenaki language (atleast to the "Anglo's" could record it in their books). Why weren't legitimate bonefide documented Abenaki people part of the events concerning the Lake Champlain "Quadricentennial Celebration"?

So why would Frederick Wiseman & Co. retropsectively-speaking write an Open Letter attacking Odanak calling them "expatriates" etc?

Secondly, why would Fred Wiseman mention in this Vermont Edition Audio-Interview (dated October 29, 2008) that quote in response to Douglas Buchholz' call-in question(s) to him Professor Frederick M. Wiseman replied with this response, "Ok, well...there's several levels to that, uhh....first of all, my genealogy comes out Canada rather than the United States and the perspective that I am using, is a political perspective not a genealogical perspective. I have certain responsibilities to the Wabanaki Confederacy and the 7 Nations of Canada, so that is where I achieve that (Native) Perspective. In terms of the political issues that are in Vermont, of course I am sure most of the VPR audience knows about the official position of the state of Vermont and the activities to undermine the cultural, political and genealogical connections of the modern communities to the old ones. For example, I've been on VPR many times dealing with that, and it is very nice to actually be here dealing with Lake Champlain and something other than the internal politics, so yes, for example, Native People are the only ones that do not have to...that cannot self-identify. If I was...a member of the Gay/ Lesbian community or the Judaic Community no one would ask for my....for proof....of that. One of the interesting issues with Native People is that they are the only one's....that continually have to....prove ourselves."

MY RESPONSE:

What does a person's "sexual orientation and or religious beliefs" have to do with verifying (without hesitation or protest) genealogically, socially and historically...the docuemntary merit(s) and foundation(s) of these four (4) gaining official State Recognition in Vermont, and or New Hampshire.

Interestingly enough, it was retrosepctively printed in the news that Mr. Wiseman went to Isreal.

It was Frederick M. Wiseman who gained funding for his Abenaki Tribal Museum & Cultural Center from the Gay and Lesbian Fund of Vermont LINK: http://www.glfundvt.org

Jeff Benay has worked with the alleged and reinvented St. Francis-Sokoki Abenaki Band of Missisquoi since he was hired in 1979 by that group; and with Fred Wiseman, and it was Jeff Benay that came from an affluent Jewish community in Long Island, New York.

www.cowasuckabenaki.org dated May 24, 2008:

"Jeff Benay, Vermont's Commissioner of Native American Affairs, Fred Wiseman historian, David Stewart Smith, Penacook and historian, Peter Newell, Intertribal Council, Roger Longtoe, El Nu Band, Howard Knight, Cowasuck, Yvon and Yannick Mercier of Sherbrooke, PQ are all pooling together the ancient history of their area and research to share and document for the future."

"Fred Wiseman with the help of Jeff Benay and the Seven Fires, has recently produced a DVD Out of the Darkness which is a work in progress."

VCNAA (Mark W. Mitchell's website) March 21, 2008:

"Jeff Benay, commissioner of the former Governor's Advisory Commission on Native American Affairs who has worked with the St. Francis/Sokoki for decades, said the fact that these three groups were on the same page was remarkable. Historically, the bands have mistrusted each other, but they came together in the past couple of weeks on the recognition issue."

"Jeff Benay said others have argued that having all bands go through the same recognition process is fair, but he contended that what's fair to the three bands is to acknowledge that they have proven themselves to the state and deserve outright recognition." (B.S.)

www.burlingtonfreepress Newspaper dated March 14, 2008:
"The three bands -- the St. Francis/Sokoki band in Swanton, the Koasek Traditional Band in southern Vermont and the Nulhegan band in the Northeast Kingdom -- have a long history in Vermont (more B.S.), said Jeff Benay, former chairman of the Governor's Advisory Commission on Native American Affairs, who helped negotiate the proposal."

www.nanews.org dated June 12, 1993:
"Jeff Benay, who is head of the Title IV Indian Education for Swanton schools, said his office has been inundated with phone calls for information on the book "Finding One's Way", a fictional account of a young Abenaki boy exploring his heritage as he grows up, and for more educational materials about Abenaki culture."

Democratic Senator Hinda Miller's Website~
LINK: http://www.hindaforsenate.com/home

LINK: http://reinventedvermontabenaki.blogspot.com/2010/03/democratic-senator-hina-millers-little.html

From Rep. Hinda Miller's mouth quote, "I personally come from a tribe and we were too recog…, too much recognized in Europe. We had to wear yellow stars in national recognition of my lineage and tribe."

Rep. Hinda Miller is "self-identifying" as a Judaic woman. Abenaki and their descendants "self-identify" all the time. The Gay and Lesbian people "self-identity" as well.

And no.....I am not imply there a Jewish Conspiracy to take over the state of Vermont.

I strongly suspect there seemingly is an ever more apparent~blatantly and obvious "Abenaki Alliance conspiracy" to take over the State of Vermont's Abenaki Recognition Process + Abenaki Recognition Criterion and including the Vermont Commission on Native American Affairs as well.

If they can't have their way (Instant Shake and Bake State of VT Abenaki Recognition....any Historical-Social and most especially NO Genealogical Evidence of their clear and convincing evidence of connection to the legitimate Abenaki Historical Communities or people) the various persons connected to this so-called "Abenaki Alliance," such as Nancy Lee (nee: Millette) Doucet for example, will get up and throw a childish hissy-fit, use 'colorful foul language and stomp out of the room....like she did at the Committee meeting which was held on Friday, April 16, 2010.

Abenaki Recognition criterion NEEDS to be transaparent, fair and open for ALL Abenaki people within the State. ALL Abenaki Incorporations and "groups" (including the one Fred Wiseman and Luke Willard belong to) should not be creating the recognition criterion BEFORE VT State Recognition is given, just so their groups can ensure themselves an open door to official State of Vermont Abenaki Recognition.

Without a solid fair and transparent process and criterion for Abenaki recognition, it would be like "the weasels planning, building and installing the door to the chicken house coop!"

March 26 to 28, 2010 Abenaki For Justice (Just-For-Us) Blog Posting's ~ Luke Andrew Willard's Threat's and Intimidation Email ~ Recent Nulhegan Recent Temper-Tantrum Posting's:

Anonymous said...

Yeah, he's such a good genealogist that he pinned the WRONG FATHER of one the Vermont alleged and reinvented chiefs (Luke Andrew Willard) and still has it posted. I wonder how long he spent doing the wrong guy's genealogy. LOL, Way to go, Trout, Salmon, Mark, Doug, whoever you are.
A. Stevens
March 26, 2010 5:12 PM

Karen Mica said...
Hmm, it is rather contradictory for a person to go to so much time and trouble to uncover and expose the "truth" if one is also covering it up if and when it does not suit a particular end. That seems like a peculiar way of doing things and is in opposition to the statement put forth that the truth will be uncovered and told... well, is it going to be told in it’s entirety, or only in a selective version?
This is simply looking like just one more colonial cover up and "white washing" of the facts to me.
If someone is deliberately covering up native in a genealogy, any native and I don`t care if it`s Cherokee, Pima or Cheyenne, it`s still a cover up and is dishonest, no matter how you look at that!
March 26, 2010 8:30 PM

Anonymous said...
Shouldn't that error be taken down or corrected by Douglas? Besides, if you're going to post someone's genealogy without their permission and against their wishes, shouldn't it at least be correct? Just my two arrows...March 27, 2010 6:57 AM

Anonymous said...

For all of you that claim Salmon is doctoring the genealogies being posted - show where it is wrong or doctored and show the proof of it. Just because you say something is happening does not make it so. He is human and as such he can make mistakes, but, I know for a fact he will correct any

research work he himself did if you can prove he made an error! He is also posting genealogies provided to him by others - if they are incorrect it is because the compiler made research errors - this is not something he has any control over! However, I think he would be willing to make note of these

errors as well as long as you can PROVE your claim.
March 27, 2010 9:44 AM

Karen Mica said...
anonymous said:
....if they are incorrect it is because the compiler made research errors - this is not something he has any control over!

However, I think he would be willing to make note of these errors as well as long as you can PROVE your claim....

Objection! If they are incorrect and the blogger has no control over it, then the blogger has no business plastering them on the inter net! Period. End of story.

And are you "seriously" telling me, that it then becomes the responsibility of the person who has had their genealogy "erroneous" and deliberately used, for nothing more then to make some idiotic point, are then expected to have to argue and "PROVE" these errors for the amusement of the public!

Are you kidding me!

How about this...let the Abenakis sort out who their own people are. There is no great mystery in who is and who is not an Abenaki descendant for us here and there is simply no reason, good or otherwise to be using any person...or their personal information as a weapon against them like this.

We already know who the pretenders are....do you think for even one minute that we need any help to figure that out!
March 27, 2010 11:42 AM

Anonymous said...
No - I'm suggesting if people are gonna bitch about errors on Salmon's blog - don't insinuate with vague references, man up and state exactly what the

error is and show why you are certain it is wrong! That's the way to CORRECT errors. To do anything else is just playing "he said - she said" like a bunch of gossiping teens.

March 27, 2010 3:21 PM

Karen Mica said...
Anonymous has left a new comment;

To Anon: I don't have permission from anybody to discuss the details of their personal business but I've seen the genealogy on Trout's site. I know the alleged and reinvented chief and I knew the chief's father....the guy listed isn't him - no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I agree with Karen that it never should've been thrown up there in the first place and I have no doubt that steps are being taken right now to deal with that.

Perhaps that's why they've (Douglas Buchholz) been so quiet. But hey, what do I know? I don't think Trout (refering Douglas Buchholz) is trying to cover anything up...I think he's just getting bad information from a bad person...
March 27, 2010 3:44 PM

Karen Mica said...
Perhaps if you had gone to Luke himself and gotten that information instead of posting erroneous or simply blatantly false information, to begin with, maybe you wouldn`t be having these problems now. Would you?
And keep in mind a tribal genealogy is "held in trust" by those who have seen them and did any work on them.
And I really do think that another thing should be factored into this whole genealogy situation being done on a personal web site deal. When someone is posting on sites like Roots Web or Ancestry etc, it is with the understanding by everyone there, that this is the accepted topic of discussion, thats why people go there.
But when you are putting a person`s entire genealogy on a personal site, and without their consent, even if that is being cloaked as "a public service" for no other reason then to cause harm, harass, defame, and with "Malicious Intent" cause emotional stress to any person and or, the entire family of this person for these singular reasons...

then I do believe a good Attorney would have a field day with it..,particularly concerning those legal terms such as " to cause harm" and with "malicious intent" which of course, as we all know, is the only reason this "other" blog even exists.

I have an ex sister in law who is the office manager for the largest and most publicized Law Firm in
New England, so if any of you who have endured this particular form of abuse would like to contact me via Private e mail, please do.
I would have no problem asking her for advice on how to best put an end to this kind of "public harassment" for any of you.
March 27, 2010 4:46 PM

Anonymous said...
As a service to many people targeted by Douglas Lloyd Buchholz, would you ask your ex sister in law what can be done, and post the response here?
March 27, 2010 6:09 PM

Karen Mica said...
I certainly will! I will try to talk to her this weekend if possible.
March 27, 2010 6:22 PM

Anonymous said...
Why are you threatening this man with judicial harm?..., when all he is doing is putting out documentary facts. This is a genealogy that Mr. Buchholtz received regarding Mr. Willard from another Abenaki. And, since the records are obviously on the blog of this man, the records are in public
preview to the Abenaki community.
Therefore, the argument that you people are making, is not seeking the truth. If you truely are people of Abenaki descent, wouldn't you want the truth to be known? One has nothing to hide, if they are telling the truth!
Mr. Buchholtz probably would welcome a challenge, but it seems no one wants to counter him with what facts you say you have? Again, who is this Chief Willard's father? If Douglas has this wrong, show me the proof he is wrong??? Or can you???

March 27, 2010 9:46 PM

Karen Mica said...

There ya go, that's how rumors get started. Let me clarify a couple of points for you, first no one is threatening Doug with "judicial harm" I am simply going to ask a few questions for people who obviously feel that their personal lives have been violated "beyond a reasonable" measure and want to know if there is legal recourse. This is no threat, this is simply an inquiry, at this point.
Documentary facts?
Then I assume that he has signed and dated releases from all the people agreeing to be in staring roles, or any part of this documentary of his?
This is how it is, Doug has attacked or plans to attack, pretty much everybody.
Most of his "informants" have already seen their names as such, up on his blog. Which of them, do you suppose is eager for a repeat? And personally, my own opinion, it appears that his "helpers" are not Abenakis ( or very bad ones ) and care not, one way or another what the outcome of his blog is, or if people are emotionally distressed, upset or even seriously hurt over this (refering to Douglas Buchholz and this blog) "documentary" business. For instance, what if someone were to become so upset that they did permanent bodily injury to themselves? Or their family.

Apparently, unbeknownst to a lot of Vermonters, etc., people don't realize that in New England, supposedly (so the rumor goes...) there is like...this...umm.. suicidal "Jim Jones/ Jonesville Tribal" thing or some sort "Manson Family Cult" kind-of-dynamic going on in N'dakinna, of "Wanna-be Abenakis, who apparently are running around Vermont, etc., calling themselves the "St. Francis-Sokoki, Nulhegan-Coosuk/ Old Phillips Band, Elnu and Koasek Trad. Band of the Koas Abenaki Nation" (sshhh...allegedly Abenaki "Secret Societies"/ Tribes/ Bands)....and if these people get "too upset" (by apparently merely seeing, reading and reviewing their genealogical-social histories and historical records on this very blog) there is quite a worry and concern that these people will do permanent bodily injury to themselves or their families. 

So PLEASE don't LOOK or READ what is on this blog. I wouldn't want anyone to slit their wrist(s) or take a bullet, because allegedly these Alleged and Reinvented Vermont and New Hampshire Abenaki people were/ are too "sensitive," "emotionally distressed" or "upset" about what one reads or examines on this blog.

WARNING:

DON'T DRINK THE ST. FRANCIS-SOKOKI "COOL-AID." 
DON'T DRINK THE KOASEK TRAD. BAND OF THE KOAS ABENAKI "LEMONADE"

DON'T SMOKE THE NULHEGAN-COOSUK/ OLD PHILLIP'S BAND DOPE. 

DON'T SLIP ON THE EL-NU BLOOD.

DON'T TRIP OVER THE ALL WANNA-BE ABENAKI BODIES.

Or does anyone care about that? Does he? I don`t think any of these people do, seems like actually hurting others is fun and games for some folks, sick as that sounds to normal people. So watch for their names turning up on his (refering to Douglas Lloyd Buchholz, meaning me and this blog) "documentary" as well, and do yourself a favor...just avoid them too. And I will say again, if you want any information on or about Luke Willard, then ask him.

And just out of curiosity, why are "assuming" that it was Luke's father that is at issue here?

March 27, 2010 11:25 PM

Anonymous (Jeanne Kent?) said...

Douglas Lloyd Bucholz's blog has violated invasion of privacy laws, and in some cases, slander and defamation laws. A lawyer's office has already looked at his blog and said so. The problem is MONEY. Most Abenaki people don't have any! A free lawyer is needed, or someone with money needs to come forward to help.
March 28, 2010 6:02 AM

And then Luke Andrew Willard emails me:

From: Luke Willard
Subject: Genealogy
To: "Salmon"
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:24 PM

Salmon (Douglas Lloyd Buchholz),
Take my children's information off of your damned website or there will be serious problems. My children are minors and I WILL NOT stand for this. I will see you put in prison where you belong if you don't take all my records down from your site. Skip Bernier gave you the hand written documents
from my aunt Janice... I know that. Where you came up with the other stuff is beyond me. It's all fake crap that has been created to advance your agenda and make me look bad. It isn't working.
You take my kids info off now, man. I'm not kidding.
Preying upon little ones? Are you that low? Leave my kids alone.

Luke Willard

MY RESPONSE IN REPLY TO LUKE WILLARD:

From: Douglas Lloyd Buchholz
To: Luke Willard
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 10:44:28 PM

Subject: Re: Genealogy

Mr. Luke Andrew Willard,

Do not communicate with me further in any way whatsoever Luke Willard. The records on my blog are a matter of public record, in Vermont, and within the Abenaki Community as well. Your demands and threats mean nothing to me. Skip Bernier did not provide me with these documents whatsoever. That is your assumptions Mr. Willard. Perhaps Mr. Bernier gave these particular documents to someone else within the Abenaki Community(?), who evaluated my blog(?), and thereafter thought wise to share with me these documents pertaining to an alleged and reinvented
Vermont "Abenaki" Chief. Again, these documents have been obviously in the public/ "Abenaki Community" floating around in other people's possession for some time now, way before I ever received such documentations in the mail.

I heard tell, that Ralph Swett got possession of your "tribes" records stored in some "unpaid for" Storage Unit in Orleans County, Vermont? Maybe Ralph Swett sent these documents to me? Vital Records from 1909 to 2008 are online and a matter of Public Record. These records are not certified; they are not usable for "identity theft" or otherwise meant to harm anyone.

If you have a problem with me, I strongly suggest that you have your attorney send communication(s), and due review of such communication(s), my attorney will address the matter with me, and with your attorney and you.

I will forward this communication to the Vermont State Police and the local Police Department here, and also to my attorney forthwith. This is all I will say to you Mr. Luke Andrew Willard. Thank you for your concern, yet I will not remove the documents off from the site, without a Court Order to do so.
Kindly,

Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

HIS RESPONSE BACK TO ME:

Re: Genealogy
Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:45 PM
From: "Luke Willard" firstnationslw@yahoo.com
To: "Douglas Lloyd Buchholz"

Then a court order, it shall be. You are the lowest form of life... a truly heartless individual that cares not about anyone but yourself. I wish I wasn't Abenaki, because I never would have met the likes of you. I will defend my family and I will see you in court.

P.S. Ralph didn't purchase any Nulhegan records... I have them safe and sound.

Luke Willard

From the www.facebook.com page entitled:

ABENAKI NATION AT NULHEGAN/MEMPHREMAGOG

(Luke Willard)
"The people of Vermont knows who the Abenakis are. A thousand scholars, ten thousand legislators, and a dozen bills will never change that."
Yesterday at 6:17pm

Patricia Horskins-Johnson
How can they NOT recognize the Abenaki ? We ARE Here...
Yesterday at 7:11pm

Amanda Myer
I am so tired of people questioning my authenticity... I grew up on rez in Canada. Let us pray all nations of people will be recognized. It is ridiculous!
12 hours ago

Alan "Kinlon Mkazas" Largy
We are who we are, we know who we are and no matter how much people in government try to take that away, they never will be able to strip us of our pride and history. And again, no matter what the government says, we'll keep handing down our stories, traditions, and where we came from to our children, grandchildren... Our tribe will survive no matter what.
10 hours ago

(Luke Willard)

It isn't over yet. We still have some arrows in the quiver.

6 hours ago

(Luke Willard)

Evil things happened in Montpelier, Vermont today (Friday, April 16, 2010). What can you expect from a legislature that made it a "priority" to protect the feelings of transvestites? Soon, you will be able to marry your dog and your sister at the same time...but Vermont Abenakis will NEVER be recognized....FORCING our artisans to be criminals for selling their crafts as “Abenaki Made”. Shame upon these “lawmakers”.

Fri at 9:39pm

MY RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE POSTING:
These groups of alleged and reinvented Abenaki (and Mohawk) remind me of a child who is asking for a glass of Soda Pop (which isn't appropriate for a child anyway....yet the child will keep asking and demanding it anyway)....is handed a glass of milk instead....the child takes the milk, looks at it and in a fit of rage....throws the glass/ cup to the floor and proceeds to destroy anything in that child's area....and then stomps away in a thrash-about temper-tantrum of a pout, because the child didn't get what the child wanted/ demanded. If the child can't have what the child wants, the child becomes destructive.

What does a person's sexuality (i.e. homosexuality, heterosexuality, or being a transvestite have anything to do with Abenaki Recognition in Vermont?....sounds like "malicious homophobic hatefulness" to my thinking....Mr. Professor Frederick M. Wiseman of Swanton, Vermont also retrospectively-speaking also made this comparative on Vermont Public Radio as well)

Carollee Reynolds
Well we Mohabinaki were always outlaws and always fighting, why change now?
10 hours ago

Mohawk + Abenaki = Mohabinaki?

(Luke Willard)
That's right.
5 hours ago

SOURCE URL: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Newport-VT/ABENAKI-NATION-AT-NULHEGANMEMPHREMAGOG/465071390300?v=wall&ref=ts

(I also noticed Willard's homophobic hateful idiocy on a couple other sites as well)
Mr. Luke Willard subsequently REMOVED his particular posted tirade tantrum.

Another Response to Luke Willard's diatribe on facebook.com....

LINK: http://vtnativejournal.wordpress.com Article entitled: Who’s hateful now, Luke?

April 13, 2010 Abenaki Pride: Setting the Record Straight Postings:

On April 13, 2010 3:46 PM Rhonda Besaw said...

Rhonda,
Your email was passed along to me at the Health Department. The Vital Records' Office is located within the department and we work closely with the Secretary of State's Office regarding the access and availability of the birth, death, and marriage certificates.
Vermont is one of a few remaining states that have their birth and death certificates as public records. Most recently, Puerto Rico and Maine passed laws to limit access to their certificates. At this time, only four states have no restrictions on access to birth certificates: Vermont, Massachusetts, Ohio, and Kentucky. (There is a bill pending in MA to limit access in their state.)
The vast majority of states consider their certificates as closed records, meaning that access is limited to the person, family member, or legal guardian. In some states, the certificates revert to open record after a specific number of years after the event (e.g., 50 or 100 years). In Vermont, the statutes allow anyone to access and receive a copy of any other person's birth or death certificate - no questions asked and no proof of identity or tracking.
Therefore, I'm required by statute to allow these certificates to be accessible to anyone that wishes to see them or obtain a copy. Various organizations have accessed and made copies of a town's birth and death certificates, such as the Genealogical Society of Utah and Ancestry.com. At this time, most of Vermont's birth, death, and marriage certificates are accessible at the Ancestry.com web site. This is legal and we do not have the authority to request that a person or organization remove images of Vermont's certificates.
I agree with you that access to the certificates with no limitations and lack of proof of identity or tracking creates a risk for individuals and families. Our primary concern is that anyone in the world can request a certified copy from Vermont, which contains all of the information, as well as the state seal and signature. A certified copy is used for legal purposes - proof of citizenship to access state and federal benefits, application for a U.S. Passport, etc. It would be very difficult for a person to create a certified copy based on the image from a web site, but very simple for a person to create or modify a certified copy that they are holding in their hands.
We are preparing a report for the Vermont Legislature that describes these potential fraud issues, as well as recommendations for improving the efficiency of vital records' management. We hope that the report will be released soon and that we can discuss the opportunities for improving the security of these certificates in the 2011 legislative session. We are aware that members of the Legislature share our concerns.
Please let me know if I can help with any additional questions.
Richard H. McCoy
Public Health Statistics Chief
Vermont Department of Health
108 Cherry St., PO Box 70
Burlington, VT 05402-0070
Phone: (802) 651-1862
Fax: (802) 865-7701
April 13, 2010 3:46 PM

On  April 13, 2010 3:55 PM Rhonda Besaw said...
email from Richard McCoy, State of Vermont Dept of Health regarding vital records:

Rhonda,
Yes, please feel free to share this information with other parties. I receive similar questions each month and most people are surprised to learn that these records are available to anyone. It is helpful for the public to know about these certificates and how our state law differs from other states. If additional questions come up, please feel free to forward them.
Race and ethnicity data on vital records' documents are not very accurate, especially on death certificates. In the past, many people would automatically mark "white" or would make a judgment based on the appearance or name of the person. We rarely utilize the race data from those older certificates since we know it is typically poor quality. In recent years, we have asked that greater care be taken in completing this information. For example, we have asked funeral directors to ask the next-of-kin which race/ethnicity would the person have considered themself, rather than make a decision based on his/her appearance. Also, we have expanded the list of races from the original five to a list of 15 options. This has helped slightly. But yes, those old certificates should be considered carefully before making a determination based solely on the race information.
We are hoping to speak with members of the Legislature this summer, so please feel free to check in with me around July or August to see if those preliminary discussions have occurred. We consider this an important issue to address, especially since there are now a few states that are refusing to accept copies of Vermont birth certificates unless my office provides them directly.
If you need additional information for any of your discussions or letters, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks.
Best,
Rich

MY RESPONSE:
The "defensiveness" of Rhonda Lou (nee: Besaw) True....and these Alleged and Reinvented Vermont and New Hampshire Abenaki, in the exposure of their genealogical documentation, social histories and documented historical records on this blog simply shows and provides the public evidence, that these groups, their "Chiefs" and so on, are not who these people claim to be.

These groups are solely responsible for their own legal approach to the State of Vermont and or New Hampshire governments, claiming that their groups are legitimately "Abenaki" and that their Incorporations legitimately represent the Abenaki populations in either Vermont or New Hampshire, geographically-speaking.

Their genealogical records, including their vital records, their social histories, and historical records ought to be placed out in the PUBLIC RECORD and not "hidden in plain sight" as these groups have repeatedly claimed that their ancestors were "hiding" for generations upon generations. The FACT, that these people have communicated with the State of Vermont Vital Records in their attempts to have the State of Vermont Vital Records have me remove Vital Record images from this blog (because the factual records of their ancestral histories and everything else on this blog THREATENS their lies and deceit. This blog content EXPOSES the FALSE FOUNDATIONS upon which these "Abenaki" incoporations have been).

These groups know this, I know this.

Through this blog, the PUBLIC in Vermont and New Hampshire will know this as well.

Created regalia, smiles and annumal Pow-wow events will not suffice anymore to make one legitmately "Abenaki" and neither will self-proclaimed declarations of ...."just look into my eyes and say that you are Abenaki" is not good enough anymore. Not when the "game" rules has been changed. No longer are these groups willing to simply be. Now these groups demand official State of Vermont and New Hampshire Recognition (and everything else that goes with it such as Federal/ State Grants, ICWA and IACB funding). These groups want and demand to have the same standing and foundation as legitimate bonefide historically-documented Native Communities. These groups of Alleged and Reinvented Abenaki groups (who have incorporated *under State Law) are no longer "Sovereign" Nations as they purport that they are, claiming to be allegedly "Abenaki Tribes" and/ or "Bands". No longer can these groups "hide" behind their created "stories," "myths," "Grandma-Said-So-Stories....," and their "proclaimed "Grandpa or Great-Grandma's death-bed funerary 'whisperings' that one's ancestry is alleged Abenaki." The "I am Abenaki" (without having the genealogical-social-and historical foundation) fantasies are over, fini, done and finished. These groups, who have approached the U.S. Governmental States or Commonwealth's have changed the "rules of the game" their groups have played since the mid-1970's. It is time, that these alleged and reinvented VT and NH Abenaki's either show and provide the clear and convincing evidence, or else be exposed for the realities in which they have thrived, deceived, and manipulated in, against the legitimate Abenaki ancestors and descendants who lay in and walk upon this land N'dakinna.

WHY are these groups so threatened and afraid of their own genealogical records, their own social histories and historical records from being shown and provided to the Vermont and New Hampshire Legislature's, and to the PUBLIC? Their "defensiveness" "their libelousness" and very likely "slanderousness" as well, are very indicative of hiding the seemingly apparent reality that these groups of alleged and reinvented Vermont and New Hampshire Abenakis, have lied about themselves (and their ancestral connections to the legitimate Abenakis), culturally mis-appropriated Abenaki Cultural language and materials, including Abenaki Burial remains & funerary goods.

Indeed, "someone" NEEDS TO ASK themselves, WHY is it that this "defensiveness" even exists in the first place from these alleged and reinvented Abenaki incorporations and groups? The Truth is the Truth. The Lies and Deceptions are just that......

Let's think about this a minute (or two...) IF race, ethnicity, or "color" data on vital record documents are not very accurate, especially on death certificates....and thus a vital record indicating "White" or "Caucasion" is not very accurate....then so too does the same principle/ or rule of thinking apply, for when a vital record indicates a person is "colored," "le sauvage," "Indian," or "Native American." If one uses the conclusion that such information on vital records "over a span of generations" for the same familial lineage, is not accurate information (in the record stating the person is "White") then the SAME CONCLUSIONS of thinking MUST APPLY to those Birth, Marriage and Death Vital Records that indicates a person is alleged "American Indian" (such as Homer St. Francis Sr. Death Certificate, even "Blackie" Lampman's Death Certificate or even Thomas Henry Cass' Death Record). These people can't have it both ways, one way and not the other; either the Vital Records informaion as documented on the Vital Records for their ancestors and themselves is valid or it isn't.

So, it is interesting that factually and documentarily-speaking, these groups and their alleged "Chief's"/ hmm pardon me, "Speaker's" would contact the State of Vermont Vital Records "to complain" about the contents of this blog. According to Frederick M. Wiseman of Swanton, Franklin County, Vermont......"this blog is a great resource." Then again, his words will ONLY APPLY up until the time that his own genealogical records are posted on this blog.

Indeed, the whole process of this blog will very likely expose the reality of Abenaki Cultural mis-appropriation to persons and groups of people who have merely incorporated *under State Law, and who are not even Abenaki in the first place.

Frederick M. Wiseman & Co. can imply that this blog content and commentary is just a matter of merely perpetuating "Lateral Violence." Or is it simply these groups stating this "lateral violence excuse" yet another attempt to deny their own factual genealogies, social histories, and historical records for what it truthfully has been and is? Are these groups attempting to "hide" their appropriation of a Abenaki cultural heritage, language and identity that honestly may not even belong to their ancestors and themselves? One has to wonder.....

The pathetic reality and truth of all of this....is that it is these persons and groups own genealogical record documentations, social histories and historical records are what will prove to be the factual documentary TRUTH.

Some more Retrospective Muck-Raking By Carollee Reynolds & Some Contemporary Commentary:

Carollee "Carol Lee" (nee: Reynolds) has documentarily been a "member" of atleast three different "alleged and reinvented Abenaki" groups. They are:


1. Traditional Abenaki of Mazipskwik & Related Bands (Connie Brow and Dave Gilman)
2. The Koasek Tradditional Band of the Koas Abenaki Nation (Nancy Milette-Doucet)

3. The St. Francis-Sokoki Band of the Missisquoi (April St. Francis-Rushlow-Merrill)

This is an email from Carollee (nee: Reynolds) when we were still "friends" with one another.
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:46 PM

From: "carollee reynolds"
To: "salmon"

From: luke willard
To: carollee57us@yahoo.com
Subject: Band Membership
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT)


Kwai Carollee Reynolds,
Hope all is well with you. Your family should join the Nulhegan Band. There are 3 criteria for membership. All full status members must meet 2 of the 3. The first is genealogical documentation. The second is substantial oral history. The third is 'community perception' = whether or not the majority of the Abenaki community considers you Abenaki. We have just as many members as Mississquoi does. In fact many have left Mississquoi to join us. We have monthly gatherings with the band meeting, potluck, and drumming. I know your family would be welcomed with open arms. Genealogies and documents are handled confidentially. Ya'll would fit in just fine. Our enrollment is full of names you might be familiar with such as Demar, Sawyer, Ouimet, Snow, Gill, Obomsawin, Otondosonne, Rockwell, Paul, Sylvester, Girard, Mason, Hakey, Phillips, Cote, Allard, Batchelder, Moulton, Marsh, Crowfoot, Baird.... I could go on and on. Anyhow, we're always looking for more pieces ofthe puzzle. Let me know and I'll get you set up with the Census committee. Be well.


Luke Willard ("Nulhegan-Coosuk/ Old Phillips Band "Chief")

Carollee Reynolds carollee57us@yahoo.com wrote....(responding to Luke Willard)...
Thanks Luke and everyone. I had a talk with Burton DeCarr and a talk with Fred Wiseman and met Harold and Nancy Lloyd, as well as my friend (Lynn Menard Mathieson?) who belongs to the other group and I guess it was too much brain stimulation--as well as frustration.
I used to have a Missisquoi Card and then they asked for more documentation and their genealogist Chris Roy told me that my three Lampman lines, Partlow's (same line as April's mother and Brent Reader) were in Vermont too long to be native. What an idiot. So later I did some more research and came up with my Partlow ancestor who was documented indian in civil war records of the town of alburgh. I got certified death, birth and marriage records and submitted them to Headquarters. I was told that after Federal Recognition that they would get a genealogist to officially accept them. I have also Acadian ancestors and Marie Couc (Lepalms), Dandurands, Patnodes, and Richard and Morits. So here is my friend (Lynn Menard Mathieson?) saying that though she was born and lives in Conn. (Connecticut) and she has this one single ancestor who was not even Abenaki (Marie Kakesik8k8e Mite8ameg8k8e aki. Mitcominqui...of which Carollee Reynolds ALSO descends from), she can sell her goods under the pretense that she has a Vermont Abenaki "Band" Card. My daughter who is in college, could not access Abenaki scholarships, even though she was in Title V Indian Education, in Swanton, Vermont. It would be a sad day, if I had to join a group of people who are unrelated to me, from another state (Massachusetts) because my paperwork sits waiting in limbo. I don't care about it myself, but my daughter's dream is to open a native store and center where I we can do community things. My granddaughter's real legal name is Wanibaugh Namih8sat Cook, but Grandma is still waiting on paperwork.

From: Carollee Reynolds <carollee57us@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Band Membership
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:05 PM
To: Takara lavender; Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

TK, if these people end up as one of the ok'd bands then they might be an option, just because we get on Missisquoi's roll doesn't mean that they will start treating people fairly or doing things.

Salmon (Douglas Buchholz) this guy (Luke Andrew Willard) has Sawyers in the group and I think with your contributions and the massive amount of stuff you have accumulated you might stand a chance. Are you part of Charlie True's thing?

From: carollee reynoldscarollee57us@yahoo.com  
To: cowasuck_traditional_band_council@yahoogroups.com
mailto:cowasuck_traditional_band_council@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: [cowasuck_traditional_band_council] Re: I've done some research.................


Kwai all the sad thing is that John Lawyer asked me several years ago if I wanted to remain on the list of the Mazipskwik and I told him no I did not, I should not have been on the old list and Luke Willard added my daughter who had just turned 21, she was not on the Mazipskwik list at all, and she was added to the Nulhegan Band. Bob Charlesbois Chris Charlebois cousin was on that list. Bob works at Plymouth MA maybe some one from MA can talk to him. Connie Brow was chairperson. I will try to contact some people Carollee Reynolds


Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:50:43-0700 (PDT)
From: "Carollee Reynolds"carollee57us@yahoo.com
To: "salmon" douglaslloydbuchholz@yahoo.com


Dear Salmon Quick note My computer kept crashing last nite and I read all the emails. I have alot of the same issues but I have a certain purpose in mind. When I first joined she (Nancy Millette-Doucet) was chief for only 2 years. 23 members are on line and there is over 600 members and I said the same thing.


Almost all these people are from Conn (Connecticut) and Ma (Massachusetts) and Rhode Island most of them are related through marie Mitegoukewe But I am not getting married to them. They are not my band and if april (April St. Francis-Rushlow-Merrill) lets me back in I will go back, TK (Takara nee: Matthews) isn't going to.


After awhile Nancy (Millette Doucet) is going to see where all these programs are going, big plans but no people work them oh well take Care
Carollee gotta go to work

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:49-00700 (PDT)
From: carollee57us@yahoo.com

For twelve years I have known this person (Douglas Buchholz/ Mark Leckie/ "Salmon") and have known that he is on full disability for mental and emotional reasons. I can only assume his attacks are based on one of the other Mulitple Personalities. He is having a panic attack because he has done extensive genealogy work and can't back up his current persona.

6 seconds later......

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:51:14-00700 (PDT)
From: carollee57us@yahoo.com

carollee reynolds
Oh Well when I first met Salmon he was in and out of the psyh ward the reason this whole thing started is that Salmon after years of research can not find a single native line in his family. Someone  extended a hand in kindness to him and tried to include him in the language studies, they (Karen Majka aka Karen Mica) offered to look at his genealogy and Bam his little traditional indian fanatasy is gone up in smoke. I was offered a "guest membership" so my daughter TK and her family could do some good like teach dance and market her stuff. Salmon can't belong to anyone's group because he isn't native at all.

Date: 4/11/2007 2:17:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time From:
From: carollee57us@yahoo.com


She (April Ann nee: St. Francis - Rushlow - Merrill) probably has about 10,000 applications. If she cant' handle or do anything with a thousand people I dont' think she is going to do anything else. Her father (the late Homer Walter St. Francis Sr.) only wanted people who lived in the Swanton area.


I think she will open membership up only to certain people with really strict lines that she thinks will vote the way she wants them to. She does absolutely nothing with the community, no feasts and only one pow wow. Brenda wants tk (Takara nee: Matthews) to take a job with Title V Indian education, you can be sure it will be minimum wage and no benefits.

Subject: Re: Check out Band Contacts
Date: 4/18/2007 11:20:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: carollee57us@yahoo.com
To: "Lynn Menard Mathieson" LMThistle@aol.com

Yup I am malfuntioning, I took happy pills for my depression (Hmmm, intersting...looks like I am not not the only person with "Mental Illness/ Disturbance Issues" Carollee Reynolds!) as Bruce said and now I am breaking out in a rash. Not y idea of happy. Isnt it funny that you and I would be happy to find a name like Van Antwerp with its mohawk roots ( there may have been more than one line) and they (the Bowman-Bruchac's) would get so upset. These guys were buried all in the same little cemetery (I will pick and chose who my ancestors are) Tell you the truth I would rather be Mohawk, no wonder my dad said that. In the oral history that was taken down by my cousin my grandmother said that the Morits were Mohawk as well. If you or I were looking for a connection the internet would be riddled with Queries, I run across yours all the time

I am not even looking forward to the Swanton pow wow. I am sure Salmon the indian expert will show up where I will be watching my grand daughter. This libelous implied induendo (that "I am a harm to a child....) just never stops, yet it is absolutely untruthful about my character, my responsibilities, and my integrity. I have NEVER ever said or implied that I was an "Indian Expert" on anything~I simply have confronted all of these Alleged and Reinvented Abenaki groups in Vermont and New Hampshire, with what these groups have put out there, and Carollee continues to libelously muck -rake in regards to my person, in her attempt to defend these groups  Inc. "Chiefs" Nancy Milette-Doucet and of course April St. Francis - Merrill's actions and words or the lack thereof(and her actions and words in the process); and nor have I ever attempted to be along with any child either, at any Pow-wow. I am not a harm to anyone, EXCEPT towards those that alleged and reinvented Abenakis of Vermont - New Hampshire, who continue to deceive and lie about their ancestors/ themselves.
 
Subject: Re: [NA-ABENAKI] ABENAKI-BOWMAN Date: 4/18/2007 7:09:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com
I used to go to AA meeting with relatives in the old abenaki headquarters (Well that sure does EXPLAIN her words on that Yahoo Group "FIRSTNATION" which was copied over onto Jeanne Lincoln-Kent's Yahoo Group "Olidahozi" on February 25, 2008 at 7:05 PM) (see below), talk about your Rogues Gallery, the smoke was so bad you couldnt' see your hand in front of your face.

The town clerk in Alburgh VT listed four indians who fought in the civil war, Partlow, Vosburg, Burk and Olena the document was dated 1863. Some Partlows and Vosburgs went back into New York state. My ancestor Eliza Jane Partlow was a full sister to Charles Partlow who was on that list--descendants of Charles are the abenaki speaker Brent Reader and Aprils' mother Patsy Partlow.

Indeed, this is the document page out of the Alburg Town history, of which Carollee Reynolds refers to, in the above bit. The Bureau of Indian Affairs OFA dept. actually addressed this document, its merits and foundation. The conclusion was that this document mean absolutely NOTHING. The document was concluded to be dubious, questionable and it was determined that the document may NOT be referring to these four men "as Indians" nor were they identified as "Abenakis" or "Native Americans" or "Indian" (these four Indians could have been an additional 4, to equal the 8 of the four men that were mentioned by name). [121]A Civil War pension record for Charles H. Partlow of Alburgh, Vermont, marrield to Sophia (nee: Blair/ Blain) Partlow, was located by OFA. It does NOT identify Charles Partlow as an Indian. Page 131 of the Proposed Findings on the St. Francis/ Sokoki Band of Abenakis of Vermont group. Dated November 09, 2005.

But the reality and obvious truth is, that Carollee Reynolds is a descendant of the Partlow's and so is April's mother Patsy St. Francis; so it is no wonder that Carollee Reynolds is "attacking" me any way that she can periodically, when it suits her to discredit the Messenger  in order to discredit the Message; because if she can "defend" her "Chief" and this LIE (this MYTH) they got themselves believing so vehemently that they are all the legitimate Abenakis of Vermont when their very own ancestors genealogical-social-and historical records prove otherwise, well then....she must stupidly assume it is in her best interest to keep mentally (though it is delusion on their part) assuming this little Abenaki Indian fantasy of theirs is real (I concluded after reading the BIA Report Conclusions that their being Abenakis is just a figment of their imaginations; their the one's with the mass mental illness/ disturbance's). If it weren't so pathetic, it would be sad.

Again, February 25, 2008 at 7:05 PM Carollee Reynolds again posted onto "FIRSTNATION" Yahoo Group, Subject [firstnation] People in glass houses shound not throw stones....
The record of who is legally mentally ill aka "wingnut" is in fact Douglas Buchholz. He has had many mental health related hospitalizations in several states. Having known him and befriended him since he first set foot in Vermont, he has come here right off the lock down unit for multiple personalities, schizophreinc and manic-depressive behavioir. He also told me personally that was on a child sexual offenders list out west. If there is any body who needs to be watched and investigated it would be Salmon. He did not come here saying he was Native american, it was just a cover for his past behavior. He was once on the St. Francis rools before proof was required. When they found out about his sexual history he was barred from the band. He is jealous of any one who can prove their identity since he really doesn't have one. He is a very sick and twisted person and until he started attacking people I used to let him stay at my camp and gave him gas money. My daughter and I have friends and relatives among all the warring factions and my old boyfrield (Bruce Delorme) was at the VCNAA Commission meeting on Monday. It was a circus according to him with Douglas who is not even native in the middle of it. If we are so busy destroying each other how can we get anything done? Even drunks at AA meeting can put principles before personalities!!! Carollee Reynolds

This was just more "libelous nonsense" from Carollee Reynolds because Nancy Millette-Doucet at the time in her Allliance with April St. Francis-Merrill (with the help of Mark W. Mitchell and Rep. Vincent Illuzzi as well) was attempting to "go around, underneath and or above" the VCNAA Commission Members, and negate (remove) the requirement of putting the genealogical-social and historical history of these alleged and reinvented Abenaki groups on the table for review and evaluation.

These "groups" want INSTANT Shake and Bake Vermont Official State Recognition, without providing anything of substance, especially nothing to do with documents genealogically-speaking, that they were and are legitimately Abenakis. Genealogicially, these groups knew that such a requirement being a part of the State Recognition Criteria in any S.117 Abenaki Recognition amendment...at the very least...very much threatens their little "Abenaki fantasy."

From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com"
Subject: Re: [NA-ABENAKI] Abenaki Indian Genealogical Research
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:43:20 -0000

Author: carollee57us
Surnames:
Classification: queries
Hi Shawn
TK and I recently signed our St.Francis/ Sokokis card with April St. Francis all you need is your Mom and your birth certificate, finally.


Carollee Reynolds

LINK: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqC5V9v2WXg/S0fTPWJ0T0I/AAAAAAAACW4/0fpKwocTDx4/s1600-h/Nancy+Millette+Doucet+Rolls_1.jpg ~ NOTICE that Daniel B. Osgood is Card No. 610

"Abenaki Tribe/ Band Hopping or Shopping" takes on a whole new meaning, as these two were heading south from Swanton, to stay at the Nancy Millette-Doucet "Koasek Hotel and Lounge" while she attended the mythical non-existent "Koasek Abenaki Cultural Academy" and learned alleged "how to be Abenaki".
Takara Matthews (age 24 years and 11 months) has very recently accused me (which was stated in the email from April 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM) that "I go out of my way to hurt people" on this blog, which is not my intent nor my endeavor. But then again, on the other hand, it is quite plausible that " persons mentally invested such as herself and many others are, in the LIES and DISTORTIONS," regarding these "alleged and reinvented Abenaki groups" being legitimately "Abenaki," would conclude that this blog in part or in whole, is "hurtful" to them, and rightly so.

~

No, I go out of my way, time and effort, to show and provide the TRUTHFUL DOCUMENTATIONS on this blog about the alleged and reinvented "Abenaki" supposedly of Vermont and New Hampshire.....

Which includes....Carollee Reynolds and and her daughter Takara aka "TK" Cynda Matthews; and so many others.

THE TRUTH HURTS....

~